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#1 PlasmaWolf

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 02:55 PM

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Shes kinda tall, tho, right?
 
Anyway, since hollows dont age, then ichigo has more profit in the long run.

 

tbh, I'm not really sure. Did Kubo ever say how tall Nel's adult form is? If I had to guess tho', I'd say she and Matsumoto look to be around the same height. :shrug:

 

I imagine Rukia would also be pissed if she ended up in an arranged marriage.

 

It's just as well, since Tatsuki supports IchiHime. The one time she even thought Ichigo* was coming onto to her, she tried to clobber his *** with school desks.
 
 
* It was actually Kon in Ichigo's body, at the time, but she didn't know that and probably wouldn't have cared anyway. :lmao:

 

If that one off scene can be used as evidence for a character shipping two people together, then one could just as easily say that Inoue supports IshiRuki.
 
NOTE: Tatuski's reaction to Ichigo!Kon coming onto her is likely a matter of Japanese values.  Public displays of affection are not seen that much in Japan as you would see them in the Western world, and stuff like hugging and kissing is something that they apparently feel should be done in the privacy of one's home, not in public places.
 
So in a sense, a public display such as kissing someone - especially someone whom you are not a couple with - would be something along the lines of indecent.

 

@PlasmaWolf the thread pic is hilarious, @every one that visits this thread "you shameless hent@i, you love pervy things don't ya?".

 

There's no room for Tatsuki in Ichigo's harem... We already have a human representative.

 

You completely missed the point I was making, which is: Tatsuki has no romantic interest in Ichigo.
 
That's why I mentioned she supports IchiHime instead and further emphasized it by mentioning how she tried to clobber him, when she even thought he was coming onto her.

 

She isn't romantically interested in Ichigo. That was my point.

 

who knows what dirty things are there in her mind!there is always a room for another human, two is always better than one.


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#2 solomon585858

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:08 PM

The best options for Ichigo are Inoue and Matsumoto. If Ichigo (and I am sure he will) become a sort of King he will need his princess. And Rukia is not suited for that role at all.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:55 PM

The best options for Ichigo are Inoue and Matsumoto. If Ichigo (and I am sure he will) become a sort of King he will need his princess. And Rukia is not suited for that role at all.


Ichigo is practically a child to Matsumoto, both chronologically and physically. She isn't quite old enough in appearance to be his mother, but she could easily pass for an older sister, or possibly, an aunt. I doubt she'd take him seriously as love interest.

Orihime likes him and is around the same age, but Ichigo's brain dead where she's concerned and still has no idea how she feels about him. Which isn't likely to change, short of her taking Tatuski's advice about how to seduce him. Of course, if she really wants his attention, all she has to do is find ways to stay in peril. Ichigo's overdeveloped hero complex guarantees she'd have his undivided attention. :D

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:57 PM

Speaking of Matsumoto I want to see her and Hitsugaya meet back up with Isshin.

And then find out that they had visited his house during the whole Arrancar fiasco. :lolxg:


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:07 PM

Speaking of Matsumoto I want to see her and Hitsugaya meet back up with Isshin.
And then find out that they had visited his house during the whole Arrancar fiasco. :lolxg:


I wouldn't mind seeing a reunion between Nanao and Lisa, but they did that off-panel in the novel. It'd be nice to see Nanao get reacquainted with her big sister figure. Plus, I'd like to see what Lisa thinks about Shunsui chasing Nanao's skirt. :lmao:

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:44 AM

I always wondered how could byakuia not have a child, i mean he was married for hundreds of Years but he didn't have any kids, at least now we know the answer also... Byakuia will probably end up with rukia, she is not realy his sister, she's his wifes sister, so it's okay..i think.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:47 AM

Byakuia will probably end up with rukia, she is not realy his sister, she's his wifes sister, so it's okay..i think.


I doubt either of them would see it that way, or even entertain the thought of it. :<_<:
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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:50 AM

You've got a funny definition of "most" Mila.  Honestly of the four the only one where you have to read between the lines is Rukia, which I suspect is why many people find that particular pairing more interesting than the ones where Kubo hits you over the head with it.  Inoue and Riruka have openly expressed their interest in Ichigo, and Nel stared daggers through Rukia the first time they met (what isth youah weewayshunship to Itsyugo??!!).  Actually the fact that all his potential love interests instantly recognize Rukia as their primary rival, whether she wants to admit it or not, is telling.  Plus there's the fact that he's basically Kaien* with bleached hair and no inconvenient wedding vows.

 
Well, finding someone physically/sexually attractive is not the same as a romantic interest, and that scene you mentioned of Nel staring daggers towards Rukia was anime-exclusive (not surprisingly given the anime team's relentless pushing of IchiRuki).
 
Rukia saw Kaien as a mentor and big brother-type figure; nothing in the manga really hinted towards romantic feelings on her part.
 

Why are people still posting in the old thread when THE NEW ONE is up?

 
Whoops. My fault, I forgot to post the "NEW THREAD" thingamabob.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:51 AM

I always wondered how could byakuia not have a child, i mean he was married for hundreds of Years but he didn't have any kids, at least now we know the answer also... Byakuia will probably end up with rukia, she is not realy his sister, she's his wifes sister, so it's okay..i think.

Maybe Hisana was too ill for any kind of intimate activities. And/or she was too ill to deal with the strain of carrying a child. Being pregnant is no picnic, and I can only imagine how long a Shinigami's pregnancy lasts....then again, maybe babies age faster. Always though the stronger your reiatsu was, the slower you age.

 

But I am thinking Hisana's health was an issue in their marriage. She said she was sorry she couldn't return his love. Maybe she couldn't have a baby, or she couldn't have sex with him. 

 

I wouldn't mind seeing a reunion between Nanao and Lisa, but they did that off-panel in the novel. It'd be nice to see Nanao get reacquainted with her big sister figure. Plus, I'd like to see what Lisa thinks about Shunsui chasing Nanao's skirt. :lmao:

I don't think Lisa would care. She and Shunsui strike me as the loose swinger type. Both seem pretty open and lax on sexual matters. And Lisa is bisexual it seems. So, she likes women too lol.  She and Shunsui may have had some threesomes in the past.

 

I do wonder which of the women Shunsui cares more for, and is closer to.

 

Was it just friends with benefits with Lisa, and he genuinely sees something in Nanao to love--but still likes Lisa as a friend.

 

Or, did he love Lisa, and Nanao is kind of a reminder in a sense that he's attached to because she favors Lisa. 

 

I am sure he cares for both girls though. 


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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:59 AM

 
Well, finding someone physically/sexually attractive is not the same as a romantic interest, and that scene you mentioned of Nel staring daggers towards Rukia was anime-exclusive (not surprisingly given the anime team's relentless pushing of IchiRuki).

 

And yet that doesn't stop me from liking the pairing all the more... 


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Posted 09 May 2014 - 01:26 AM

You've got a funny definition of "most" Mila.  Honestly of the four the only one where you have to read between the lines is Rukia, which I suspect is why many people find that particular pairing more interesting than the ones where Kubo hits you over the head with it.  Inoue and Riruka have openly expressed their interest in Ichigo, and Nel stared daggers through Rukia the first time they met (what isth youah weewayshunship to Itsyugo??!!).  Actually the fact that all his potential love interests instantly recognize Rukia as their primary rival, whether she wants to admit it or not, is telling.  Plus there's the fact that he's basically Kaien* with bleached hair and no inconvenient wedding vows.
 
*This is perhaps literally true considering the origins of Zangetsu (and his status as the fundamental core of Ichigo's own soul) and the necessity of a Brahma to complete the Trimurti symbolism of Ichigo (Vishnu) and Zangetsu (Shiva), where Kaien just so happens to easily fit the bill due to his water-based powers.  (Actually that just reminded me of Superstar blurting out that no Zanpakuto can use both water and fire, foreshadowing of Zangetsu 3.0, much?)


Rukia x Ichigo forever. No matter what happens in Bleach, I can just consider the Deicide ending as True Ending in my head anyway. XD 
 

The best options for Ichigo are Inoue and Matsumoto. If Ichigo (and I am sure he will) become a sort of King he will need his princess. And Rukia is not suited for that role at all.


Why?
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Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:15 AM

Why?


Short version: anti-shipping goggles.

IIRC, solomon585858 has admitted that he doesn't like Rukia (this was sometime ago, back on the old forum) and said she's flatchested and boyish-looking. solomon also has a fixation with large breasts and ships Ichigo with any and all such females, including Yoruichi. But he mainly ships him with Orihime and Matsumoto.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:31 AM

Maybe Hisana was too ill for any kind of intimate activities. And/or she was too ill to deal with the strain of carrying a child. Being pregnant is no picnic, and I can only imagine how long a Shinigami's pregnancy lasts....then again, maybe babies age faster. Always though the stronger your reiatsu was, the slower you age.
 
But I am thinking Hisana's health was an issue in their marriage. She said she was sorry she couldn't return his love. Maybe she couldn't have a baby, or she couldn't have sex with him.

yes indeed, this is the best explanation we can have right now, i wasn't serius at first but now let us be serius shall we? If yamamoto needed a 1000 year to age from being in his 50s to be 100 yo (in human standards)(note these numbers are just assumptions), then she would need to be pregnant for 15 years and we already know that she was too sick, and may be she was infertile.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 08:24 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing a reunion between Nanao and Lisa, but they did that off-panel in the novel. It'd be nice to see Nanao get reacquainted with her big sister figure. Plus, I'd like to see what Lisa thinks about Shunsui chasing Nanao's skirt. :lmao:

Lisa couldn't care less about Shunsui chasing other woman's skirt. She should've seen it all when she's still his VC back then. I have a sneaking suspicion that Lisa became the perv that she is was because of Shunsui or Shunsui chose her to be his VC because of their common interests (they probably liked to do pervy things together like going around chasing skirts or watching porn). Either way, Nanao would probably find them both beyond annoying but still have high regard for them.


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Posted 09 May 2014 - 09:49 AM

they probably liked to do pervy things together like going around chasing skirts or watching porn

lmao,they can't watch adult movies, there is no internet in soul society and i highly doubt that there are any companies of this kind in heaven.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 11:23 AM

Lisa couldn't care less about Shunsui chasing other woman's skirt.


That isn't what I was getting at. Sure, Lisa knows Shunsui's a perv and happens to be one, herself, so usually she might not care about him chasing other women. As in, 'other than her surrogate kid sis'. Get it?

Which is why I was wondering how Lisa would feel about that, if she knew?
 

Either way, Nanao would probably find them both beyond annoying but still have high regard for them.


Probably. :lmao:

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:03 AM

While I'm certain RukiaxByakua will never happen, it actually makes since traditionally speaking.  For ages and ages it was a common and encouraged practice for people to marry the siblings of a dead spouse.  I see a lot of people find this "creepy", but it makes sense from the standpoint of dead partner being able to "live on" through their sister (if a woman) or brother (if the deceased is a man).  Brothers and sisters are the most related to two people...they share the same genes.  So if a man marries the sister of his dead wife it is as close as he can come to maintaining  a biological link.


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Posted 10 May 2014 - 12:20 PM

You've got a funny definition of "most" Mila. Honestly of the four the only one where you have to read between the lines is Rukia, which I suspect is why many people find that particular pairing more interesting than the ones where Kubo hits you over the head with it. Inoue and Riruka have openly expressed their interest in Ichigo, and Nel stared daggers through Rukia the first time they met (what isth youah weewayshunship to Itsyugo??!!). Actually the fact that all his potential love interests instantly recognize Rukia as their primary rival, whether she wants to admit it or not, is telling.


Out of the five listed names, canon has indicated one is in love (Orihime) and one finds him hot (Riruka). That's it. Three versus two is why I said 'most'. The rest of your post indicates you're confusing anime filler. For example, the scene you're thinking of with Nel was invented by the anime team. It doesn't exist in the manga. The anime has invented all of the scenes where someone views Rukia as their primary love rival to Ichigo.

The only time 'love rivalry' cropped up in the manga it was a comedy scene at the beginning of the story when the girls were discussing the rumours of Ichigo and Rukia (rumours Keigo started as a joke). Orihime concluded that if Rukia felt the same way about Ichigo as her that meant they could team up together against Ichigo.

The only time jealousy over Rukia (regarding Ichigo) occurred was a brief situation that didn't last. It wasn't about love rivalry, it was about being useful. Orihime couldn't have fixed Ichigo because her injuries were making him feel like a failure. That was, in fact, Rukia's point to Ichigo when she fixed him. The reason Orihime was upset was actually because she cares so much for Rukia and Matsumoto fixed that quickly with a few truths of her own.

Now, how fans want to ship any of the characters is entirely up to them and I didn't comment one way or another on shipping.
 

The best options for Ichigo are Inoue and Matsumoto. If Ichigo (and I am sure he will) become a sort of King he will need his princess. And Rukia is not suited for that role at all.


The best option for Ichigo is Uryuu. :wub:

You're just in denial.

RukiHime is, like, totally canon. Proof.
 

I always wondered how could byakuia not have a child, i mean he was married for hundreds of Years but he didn't have any kids,


He was married for five years.
 

She said she was sorry she couldn't return his love. Maybe she couldn't have a baby, or she couldn't have sex with him.


I interpreted that as the traditional expectation that a wife will devote herself completely to her husband and home. However, because she was so focused on finding Rukia, Hisana couldn't devote herself to creating a home and family with Byakuya. Her loyalty was split and for that she apologised.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:21 PM

He was married for five years.

hmmm, 5 years? this makes sense, so even if she got pregnant( but she didn't) the baby would be like 3 months old.

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Posted 10 May 2014 - 03:07 PM

RukiHime is, like, totally canon. Proof.


Here's a better link.  :aww:


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