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#21 DrugzRule

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 10:19 AM

Eren is experiencing a guilt complex due to his inability to meet his high standards as humanity's greatest hope as well as being the son of a arguably the biggest criminal in mankind's history. We don't know the reason why Grisha killed the Reiss family and stole the titan's ability for himself but his actions made mankind much more defenseless and as far as we know it was for no other reason for own personal gain and/or spite for the Reiss family when they apparently are the only ones who could properly utilize the titan's powers and save mankind. Not to mention Eren now remembers having eaten his own father, it really isn't hard to see how Eren finds his existence worthless. Historia's resolution to kill the titans probably sealed the deal as Eren perhaps sees Historia as a better successor who will succeed where he has failed.


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 10:32 AM

The situation turned into a huge, illogical clusterfuck.


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 03:30 PM

Everything would be better if Eren had fucked Historia when they were alone in the hideout.

 

Damn straight

 

if more manga just took the Porno solution we wouldn't have half the problems we usually have... and the villain would never have the convenient virgin sacrifice either

 

Now all we need is Burt and Ernie to show up and really make thing confusing

 

Eren is basically wallowing in despair cause well everything he built himself up on was a lie even his Titan shifting ability isn't some miracle... its just the consequence of his father's sins.

 

He still holds alot of peoples death on his hands -IE he name drops members of his squad he lead to getting killed-  and seeing Historia more resolute to kill the titans... Eren's will has broken. I mean He even lampshaded how many times has he been kidnapped, How many times has He failed to save people...

 

Kenny does bring up several good points about Papa Reiss -points we've been saying-


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 05:18 PM

Chapter 65:

 

More and more mysteries are coming to light, I'll start with the simplest:

 

Chapter 63:

 

This still doesn't explain how Grisha knew where to find the Reiss in hiding

 

If Historia will get Titan powers, why do I have a feeling tragedy is going to repeat itself, with Rod getting eaten?

Objectively speaking, this may give her all his knowledge and secrets

 

 

Since I'm of the idea that Titan powers are biotechnology, if we already have this, what surprise is there to have genetically-enhanced humans whose abilities can pass along bloodlines?

 

And while I'm at it, one of my theories right now is that the Coordinate was brought along to the "New Continent" to create a safe haven from the wild, out-of-control Titans, hence the Walls.

The more I think about it, the more I feel that the Ackermans' ancestors may have served as bodyguards for this long journey, without Titan powers

I am half right so far, let's see if the other half will come true.
I take it that it is implied that Levi is Kenny's nephew?  And Mikasa is a descendant of the branch family, therefore a distant, distant relative of their's
 
If the Reiss' Memory Manipulation is indeed genetic technology, I wonder if the reason it doesn't work on certain races is due to technological limitations (ie only programmed to target one race, the "majority" in this case), or if that was the intention?
Like, maybe the Ackermans' ancestors knew about the Memory Manipulation, and in exchange for their protection, their bloodline cannot be targeted as a "guarantee"?
 

Eren is experiencing a guilt complex due to his inability to meet his high standards as humanity's greatest hope as well as being the son of a arguably the biggest criminal in mankind's history. We don't know the reason why he killed the Reiss family and stole the titan's ability for himself but his actions made mankind much more defenseless and as far as we know it was for no other reason for own personal gain and/or spite for the Reiss family when they apparently are the only ones who could properly utilize the titan's powers and save mankind. Not to mention he now remembers having eaten his own father, it really isn't hard to see how Eren finds his existence worthless. Historia's resolution to kill the titans probably sealed the deal as Eren perhaps sees Historia as a better successor who will succeed where he has failed.

I would like to add that Eren's mind is currently set to "what if"

 

"If the Titan Power wasn't stolen, maybe the Reiss really would've taken care of everything"

"If the Reiss would've taken care of everything, the squad he led during the Defense of Trost will still be alive"

"If I wasn't given the Power, the (previous) Levi Squad will still be alive"

"If it wasn't stolen, Dad will still be alive"

"If I never said I wanted to see the outside world, maybe things would've been better"

 

To Eren's merit, I commend him for remembering everyone who has died, and holding onto the pain of it all

That said, please conduct yourself and stand back up as a proper main character

But at the least, it is consoling that Historia has forgiven Eren somewhat

 

 

Kenny pretty much confirmed spoke all our opinions on Rod Reiss.  Sucks that we can't verify if the reason "he can't be allowed to become a Titan" is truth or lie

In any case, it doesn't feel like he will live through this arc

 

A "Titan that was most suited for battle".  Makes me wonder how much formula they have in safekeeping

So what is it?  Given the situation, it needs to be strong right from the start, doesn't require (much) prior tutelage, and possibly keeps the user well-guarded

An Armored Titan perhaps?


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Posted 10 January 2015 - 12:55 AM

I want Historia to be taken down my Mikasa or Levi like a chump fodder Titan. She's totally pissed me off at this point. That would be awesome.

 

Eren!!! Rage a bit more! Don't take Reiss's crap lying down like a beaten man. Squish him like the sniveling insect he is!!

 

Mikasa's like Sam and Dean from Supernatural: The culmination of two powerful bloodlines meant to make a super person. XD


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Posted 10 January 2015 - 01:22 AM

so Eren is a little bitch, we go it.

 

 

And this about the Reiss family could had done something in the last 5 years, What the hell is this about? These motherfuckers had the titan power for at least a 100 years, why couldn't they use it to eliminate all or most of the titans?, instead they decided to erase most people minds and control them. Their story sounded like they are fucking bastards, so I don't understand Eren's girly feelings.

And Where does the monkey titan comes in all of this?, What about berth's titan group?.


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Posted 10 January 2015 - 02:28 AM

I like where this is going.

 

Eren x Historia ! Mikasa x Eren was, frankly, boring to me (not to mention Eren just sees her as a sister), and let's face it Ymir is probably dead by now. So huzzah!



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Posted 10 January 2015 - 07:02 AM

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 09:09 AM

^ This reminds me that what this manga needs now is MOAR Bartender-kun.


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Posted 10 January 2015 - 10:57 AM

I thought this chapter was coming out in February.

 

Still, what the hell?

Things aren't getting bad, they are just, confusing... No one really expects eren to be eaten, in fact, I even expect him to use the power to make Historia eat her father.

And Kenny wasn't really a bad guy, at least he tried to give eren a chance.



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Posted 10 January 2015 - 12:36 PM

I dont think Levi is the son of the whore mentioned in this chapter.

 

Despite his looks Levi is 30ish.. 32 or 34 and I dont think Kenny is 20~ years older than he is.



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Posted 10 January 2015 - 02:38 PM

And Kenny wasn't really a bad guy, at least he tried to give eren a chance.

 

Eh. He wasn't truly good or bad he was like Chaotic Neutral or something.


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Posted 10 January 2015 - 03:19 PM

So if Eren is not eaten, Historia remains a titan forever! :mellow: Until she's killed. RIP Historia!

Reiner isn't going to be happy about this. And also Ymir, if she's still alive by the time this news reaches her.

 

 

 

Or Eren could suddenly develop the power to transform titans back into humans, or Papa Reiss reveals another serum. :rolleyes:


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Posted 10 January 2015 - 03:35 PM

-puts on Tin foil hat-

 

Historia's titan form is this horrendous Brood mother espe monster that pretty much if it stood up would bring the cave crashing down. essentially something that in no way looks like Historia -ala the before the fall titans-

 

Historia will "Devour" Eren ala Bernt eating that one guy and Ymir

 

-Remember Bernt somehow stripped the guy for his gear while he was inside his titan form-

 

Historia will keep enough of herself to bring Eren into her control bubble

 

"Fluids" will be exchanged with as many sexual metaphors as possible -including Virgin being deflowered embrace cause ****ing is the number one way to get your hero out of a funk-

 

and there was much Mikasa Fuming

 

While they're connected We'll finally get to see the "truth" Historia gets the history she wants and the truth of of her father... Eren gets clarity on his father actions due to their union leading too

 

Historia's monster titan form essentially bursts... giving birth to Historia's real Titan Form -which is very much godvia hair- and Eren's upgraded Titan form -which takes aspects from the previous three Titan shifters into a new offensive combo

 

Papa Reiss gets killed by Kenny -you bastard-

 

and then Sasquatch titan makes his ominous return


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Posted 10 January 2015 - 03:43 PM

-snip-

 

 

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 04:05 AM

I feel bad that I laughed at Eren's status. And I did not put Levi's parentage together from the mentioning of Kenny's pregnant whore sister (I think that was their relation) O_O Wow. I feel stupid now. So Levi is his nephew? Kenny was trying to kill his nephew..... that family has so many problems..... -_-


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Posted 11 January 2015 - 07:51 AM

And Mikasa must be from that branch family that tried to get a business right?



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Posted 11 January 2015 - 03:26 PM

I feel bad that I laughed at Eren's status. And I did not put Levi's parentage together from the mentioning of Kenny's pregnant whore sister (I think that was their relation) O_O Wow. I feel stupid now. So Levi is his nephew? Kenny was trying to kill his nephew..... that family has so many problems..... -_-

Try and remember everything.  Kenny took in Levi for some time in the past and taught him most of what he knows today, most likely because to perform his role as his uncle.

Maybe he's the one who provided his group with the 3DMG?

 

But with Kenny in the Interior Squad and Levi in the Scouting Legion, they had to come into conflict

 

And Mikasa must be from that branch family that tried to get a business right?

I voiced the same opinion above.  Her family did live in Shiganshina after all


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Posted 11 January 2015 - 08:00 PM

Oh yeah, Shiganshina had tax breaks.

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 08:47 PM

Eren needs to stop being a little bitch. Did he forget about vowing to kill all the titans with his bare hands? To hell with the Reiss family. If they're so great, why are the titans still around? The answer is that Rod is full of it. That's all he needs to know.

 

By the end of this little arc, I'm hoping Eren will have had his fill of being useless. Probably going to get that kill to survive speech he once gave Mikasa parroted back at him, followed by a titan smackdown. I sure hope so, anyway. Haven't had any titan fights in a long time.

 

I wouldn't mind Historia getting killed off, either. Honestly, too many of the survey corps characters are starting to feel safe, which is counterintuitive to the atmosphere this series was originally known for. I might be in the minority here, but I think Levi should get the axe eventually too. Humanity losing its strongest soldier will really heighten the tension.


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