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#1 Oben

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 03:46 PM

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In reality it's more like 40% each will vote democrat or republican no matter what.

But yeah of course they will. Trump's popularity is precisely because he's not a politician, is standing up to the neocon establishment, and speaks brutally honestly without worrying about political correctness. The people don't want another politician; being supported by her entire party just makes her seem like another establishment candidate, which she is.



this is what the group votes look like romney vs obama.

http://www.ropercent...ups-voted-2012/

Now, this is without romney being a sexist pig on national tv. Romney won the white vote by a land slide and lost everywhere else.

Obama won with all of the minorities by a lot and the women vote less than what i imagine.

Megyn is a smart women and ask trump an easy question to win women voters. Instead like i said he was an ass. No way does trump goes independent and win the election. Hell there is no way he is going win by being a Republican.

If trump wins the republican nominee than the Democrats can put a beach ball against him and win the white house.


Who cares about Romney vs Obama. Trump is not a neocon, he's an anti-establishment candidate who is seeking the Republican nomination to represent White conservatives, classical liberals, or pretty much anyone who is sick and tired of the washington machine that betrayed them a long time ago. Trump wasn't being sexist at all, you just wish people would think of him that way. Liberal women aren't going to like him regardless, it doesn't matter what they think. The current republican candidates don't represent true conservative people or White America, they represent Jews and corporate elites who buy them and control their sources of power. Megyn Kelly was following orders from above, she wasn't trying to prepare him for women voters at all, she was trying to destroy him because Fox News and the Republican party HATE him since he stood up to amnesty, which the corporate elites want. Why do you think there is a whole "stand with Megyn" movement now? Rupert Murdoch tried to get the Chairman of Fox to stop giving him publicity for crying out loud. You're too stupid to understand the reality of how this country works or the political process so I'm not going to waste anymore of my time on this discussion. Just enjoy the last year where illegals like your grandmother from Honduras can just climb in the country and have anchor babies, because it's going to change real soon ;)



Lets just ignore him and keep going.

Now, can anyone see trump winning the female vote?



Not really .. no.

But then again, I'm sure that there'll be a number of women to support and vote for him. Regardless of what he says or does.

Just like how there's women who were, are, and will be against Women's Rights.

There's just always going to be some people.

Overall however. I think there's more women with brains, to see how much of an ass Trump is, and not worth voting for.
So he'll get some women votes, but really lose the majority IMO.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 03:53 PM

Trump goes independent, he splits the Republican vote and Democrat wins. He's resonating with too many people not to. Look at what he has said so far. And he still leads the polls by a healthy margin.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 03:56 PM

Maybe instead of just the 2016 elections. Just focus in on "US Politics".

Since there tends to be more than just the Presidential Elections, to discuss.

 

Just my two cents.

 

Anyways. I saw the first Republican Debate back on Thursday, last week.

Was like watching and listening to a bunch of morons for an entire hour.

 

Seriously! Why do people like this get support?

 

Not to say the other sides are innocent or anything. With them it's a "lesser of evils", sort of thing.

But people like those dullards. It's like people throw away common sense, and want to be wronged so badly. *sigh*  


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 04:00 PM

Who cares about Romney vs Obama. Trump is not a neocon, he's an anti-establishment candidate who is seeking the Republican nomination to represent White conservatives, classical liberals, or pretty much anyone who is sick and tired of the washington machine that betrayed them a long time ago. Trump wasn't being sexist at all, you just wish people would think of him that way. Liberal women aren't going to like him regardless, it doesn't matter what they think. The current republican candidates don't represent true conservative people or White America, they represent Jews and corporate elites who buy them and control their sources of power. Megyn Kelly was following orders from above, she wasn't trying to prepare him for women voters at all, she was trying to destroy him because Fox News and the Republican party HATE him since he stood up to amnesty, which the corporate elites want. Why do you think there is a whole "stand with Megyn" movement now? Rupert Murdoch tried to get the Chairman of Fox to stop giving him publicity for crying out loud.

Trump is an anti-establishment...did you even pay attention to the debate? He is about as good of an example of the corruption within the establishment as you can get.

 

Trump goes independent, he splits the Republican vote and Democrat wins. He's resonating with too many people not to. Look at what he has said so far. And he still leads the polls by a healthy margin.

>.> I think this year I may actually have to vote for once just to make sure that guy does not win if he is leading the polls. Pretty sure that guy is bad news for America.

 


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 04:13 PM

Trump is an anti-establishment...did you even pay attention to the debate? He is about as good of an example of the corruption within the establishment as you can get.

 

>.> I think this year I may actually have to vote for once just to make sure that guy does not win if he is leading the polls. Pretty sure that guy is bad news for America.

I want him to win the nominee he have no chance to win the white house. The moment he wins the nominee the democrats can counter with warren or sanders.

 

Those guys would help usa way more than Clinton.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 04:23 PM

No matter how politically connected or calculating the Clintons are, the fact is that they know how to govern. No one is more experienced at the position, either Republican or Democrat, than Hillary Clinton is. If there were such a thing as President of Domestic Affairs, then I would certainly vote for a Warren-Sanders (or Sanders-Warren) ticket. But out of everyone else running, I don't see much in the way of qualifications.


 


Trump is an anti-establishment...did you even pay attention to the debate? He is about as good of an example of the corruption within the establishment as you can get.

 

Exactly. And he's the one guy that can't be bought or puppeteered by donors. He can literally fund his whole campaign himself. That's part of the allure. Not one Republican can intelligently complain about donations and corruption. They've all taken money from him at some time or another. Or at least someone like him.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 04:36 PM

No matter how politically connected or calculating the Clintons are, the fact is that they know how to govern. No one is more experienced at the position, either Republican or Democrat, than Hillary Clinton is. If there were such a thing as President of Domestic Affairs, then I would certainly vote for a Warren-Sanders (or Sanders-Warren) ticket. But out of everyone else running, I don't see much in the way of qualifications.


 

 

 

 

Exactly. And he's the one guy that can't be bought or puppeteered by donors. He can literally fund his whole campaign himself. That's part of the allure. Not one Republican can intelligently complain about donations and corruption. They've all taken money from him at some time or another. Or at least someone like him.

So rather than have a round about person that might be bought off by corporations, just choose the one that is a figure-head of a corporation to lead our country to lessen the hassle of thinking he might be going for laws that allow for corporations to do wrong by knowing they are going to do that is the primary reason why we want Trump? Take a cause of corruption instead of one that is corrupted from time to time? (One that doesnt even know how to properly govern anything to boot too!)


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:17 PM

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Regardless, I've been enjoying the Trump show.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:26 PM

A Paul/Sanders debate would be the best thing to ever happen to American politics. 

 

Trump goes independent, he splits the Republican vote and Democrat wins. He's resonating with too many people not to. Look at what he has said so far. And he still leads the polls by a healthy margin.

 

Trump's dissent at the stage seemed purely theatrical. He's popular, but he's well aware that he only owns support from sectors of the Republican base, all of whom ultimately want to avoid a Clinton presidency.

 

Going third party would be suicidal to his public image in the eyes of his biggest fans; he'd be forever remembered as the guy who gave Clinton the easy 270 and kept Democrats in the Oval Office for at least another four years.

 

Apart from Trump, none of the other candidates had any serious gaffes Thursday night. 

 

Anyways. I saw the first Republican Debate back on Thursday, last week.

Was like watching and listening to a bunch of morons for an entire hour.

 

Seriously! Why do people like this get support?

 

Not to say the other sides are innocent or anything. With them it's a "lesser of evils", sort of thing.

But people like those dullards. It's like people throw away common sense, and want to be wronged so badly. *sigh*  

 

For future reference, let's avoid making posts like this one here. They serve no purpose.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:47 PM

Donald Trump on ISIS: "“I would knock out the source of their wealth, the primary source of their wealth, which is oil,”

 

 

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:52 PM

For future reference, let's avoid making posts like this one here. They serve no purpose


Eh you might as well spam that every page.

Yeah I'm surprised Trump's doing so well. I doubt he'll win the election, but the nomination at least…I don't know how analysts are discussing this.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 05:57 PM

No matter how politically connected or calculating the Clintons are, the fact is that they know how to govern. No one is more experienced at the position, either Republican or Democrat, than Hillary Clinton is. If there were such a thing as President of Domestic Affairs, then I would certainly vote for a Warren-Sanders (or Sanders-Warren) ticket. But out of everyone else running, I don't see much in the way of qualifications.

Warren should be hillary VP. I would vote for that party.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:07 PM

A Paul/Sanders debate would be the best thing to ever happen to American politics.


I agree. But only if it's Paul before he ran for President, not this one. I'm honestly severely disappointed on how he flipped on foreign aid. Once that donor money got in play, his message started to change.
 
 

Trump's dissent at the stage seemed purely theatrical. He's popular, but he's well aware that he only owns support from sectors of the Republican base, all of whom ultimately want to avoid a Clinton presidency.
 
Going third party would be suicidal to his public image in the eyes of his biggest fans; he'd be forever remembered as the guy who gave Clinton the easy 270 and kept Democrats in the Oval Office for at least another four years.


Let's be clear. And this goes to everybody. I'm not suggesting that Trump is a viable US Presidential candidate. I'm not suggesting that at all. However, he has tapped into something that the Republican electorate is feeling and the current candidates cannot or will not address. If he goes, 3rd party, Republicans will bash him for sure. But I don't think that the electorate will really fault him. And quite frankly, I think going 3rd party is more of a threat and something to boost his image. I doubt he'd actually do it. There's nothing in it for him. [conspiracy]Unless a democrat offers him a serious backroom deal.[/conspiracy]
 

Apart from Trump, none of the other candidates had any serious gaffes Thursday night.


I'm speaking from hearsay, but it sounds like the debate wasn't hard hitting at all. 

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:11 PM

I'm speaking from hearsay, but it sounds like the debate wasn't hard hitting at all. 

the question was a preparation for the big stage. All of the candidates fail the test to get ready for the national level.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:34 PM

Jon Stewart is having the most fun with all of this, I miss him already :(

 

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 08:59 PM

Sanders is a spineless coward and anyone who votes for him pretty much wants America to be crushed by even the weakest of nations. 

 

That being said, it would ptobably be Hilary vs Trump in the end and I'd vote for Hillary because Trump is not a politician, he's a celebrity. 


 

No matter how politically connected or calculating the Clintons are, the fact is that they know how to govern. No one is more experienced at the position, either Republican or Democrat, than Hillary Clinton is. If there were such a thing as President of Domestic Affairs, then I would certainly vote for a Warren-Sanders (or Sanders-Warren) ticket. But out of everyone else running, I don't see much in the way of qualifications.


 

 

 

 

Exactly. And he's the one guy that can't be bought or puppeteered by donors. He can literally fund his whole campaign himself. That's part of the allure. Not one Republican can intelligently complain about donations and corruption. They've all taken money from him at some time or another. Or at least someone like him.

Why would you vote Sanders? Where is he gonna get the money to increase the minimum wage? WHere is he gonna get the money for free uni? How's he going to do anything if two ignorant buffoons can take over his entire speech over a worthless cause that is completely irrelevant to anything that would help America? Wha't's he going to do when someone that actualy matters is debating with him? Is he going to just let the other guy talk? When Putin wants to negotiate deals Sanders is going to drive America to the ground, making us a third world nation


 

A Paul/Sanders debate would be the best thing to ever happen to American politics. 

 

 

A talk between Paul and himself would not be.  Sanders is probably too spineless to even speak. 


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 09:05 PM

 

Why would you vote Sanders? Where is he gonna get the money to increase the minimum wage? WHere is he gonna get the money for free uni? How's he going to do anything if two ignorant buffoons can take over his entire speech over a worthless cause that is completely irrelevant to anything that would help America? Wha't's he going to do when someone that actualy matters is debating with him? Is he going to just let the other guy talk? When Putin wants to negotiate deals Sanders is going to drive America to the ground, making us a third world nation

by raising taxes on the rich and cut the military. The US spends more money on the military than the what next 10 or 20 nations who is out to get us beside our imagination.

 

Russia is learning the hard way that war cost money.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:28 PM

by raising taxes on the rich and cut the military. The US spends more money on the military than the what next 10 or 20 nations who is out to get us beside our imagination.

 

Russia is learning the hard way that war cost money.

Explain how cutting the military is going to help America. Bernie is the epitome of cowardice. If two pathetic nobodies are able to stop his entire speech, imagine what any country who threatens America can do. especially with a weak military. We will become the next Sweden if Sanders is president. Hell no to that. 


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 11:54 PM

Explain how cutting the military is going to help America. Bernie is the epitome of cowardice. If two pathetic nobodies are able to stop his entire speech, imagine what any country who threatens America can do. especially with a weak military. We will become the next Sweden if Sanders is president. Hell no to that. 

What country is going to threaten American? Russia? They are worth less than apple. China? They need us way more than we need them.
 

Name a country that is a threat to the USA.


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 12:36 AM

What country is going to threaten American? Russia? They are worth less than apple. China? They need us way more than we need them.
 

Name a country that is a threat to the USA.

Do you ever read the news?

 

Saudi arabia, iran, mexico, russia , north korea, 

 

if you think russia and china are suffering economically, you need to freshen up on your news


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