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#21 TheLastPierrot

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 08:20 PM

http://www.thedreamc...k/en/0/3/page/1

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 09:43 PM

Wow, if you studied more anatomy and perspective you'd be making some pretty amazing stuff.

 

You should be an animation or entertainment design major, not graphic design lol.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 02:50 PM

Wow, if you studied more anatomy and perspective you'd be making some pretty amazing stuff.

 

You should be an animation or entertainment design major, not graphic design lol.

thanks, I certainly plan to continue improving my art.


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Posted 16 July 2013 - 06:13 PM

I just read a chapter, damn it's amazing. Hard to believe that you're an amateur



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Posted 16 July 2013 - 08:16 PM

I just read a chapter, damn it's amazing. Hard to believe that you're an amateur

thank you, I really appreciate your comments!

 


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Posted 23 July 2013 - 10:25 PM

New illustration of a character from Bleak on my facebook.

Also on my deviantart


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:44 PM

I love the art work. the only thing, the heads of the people look kind seem one direction. I don't know if I said that right. lol

 

But love the characters, the scenery and shading. Continue to improve hopefully you get published if you ain't already 


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:12 PM

I love the art work. the only thing, the heads of the people look kind seem one direction. I don't know if I said that right. lol

 

But love the characters, the scenery and shading. Continue to improve hopefully you get published if you ain't already 

thanks for the support man. ;)
What do you mean "seem one direction"?


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Posted 05 May 2014 - 02:52 PM

I was thinking about updating this anymore but since I noticed there some guys following the tread I thought i should.

well to be short my story "Bleak" is now a mix of a novel and a graphic novel, you can read the new chapter here:
http://www.thedreamc...k/en/0/4/page/1

and if you want to know more about my decision read my facebook here:
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Posted 05 May 2014 - 07:49 PM

I think its a wrong decision, judging simply from the fact that i literally skipped the last two pages without even reading them (the pure text ones), while i thought that the comic had a good pacing.

 

but first things first, I dont think that going from comic pages to straight text makes this a graphic novel. If you want to focus more on the story-telling rather than the pictures then you should add-blend alongside with the text an illustration (i.e. no dialog balloons) of the most important event in that page.

 

e.g.

 

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which is one of the illustrations found in a Peter Pan book next to a full page of text.

 

In that way you decrease significantly the amount you have to draw and increase the quality of each illustration. As an example in the newest update you could basically condense the comic pages to just a big illustrations with all the characters standing around the main character as he is scared off by the parrot.

 

Moving on, I believe that your reasons for doing that change are also somewhat flawed. Most amateur artists start off with just ONE series until they get LOADS of experience to be able to handle two. In US comics, most professionals work in only ONE series for a period of months before moving on and even they consider that one page/day is ideal. Bottom line: focus on one of the two ideas/comic series you have, give it your all to produce the best art you can and leave the other one for the future when you will have improved both in art and storytelling.

 

unless you want to be a writer and not a comic artist in which case, touche.


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Posted 05 May 2014 - 08:03 PM

I think its a wrong decision, judging simply from the fact that i literally skipped the last two pages without even reading them (the pure text ones), while i thought that the comic had a good pacing.

 

but first things first, I dont think that going from comic pages to straight text makes this a graphic novel. If you want to focus more on the story-telling rather than the pictures then you should add-blend alongside with the text an illustration (i.e. no dialog balloons) of the most important event in that page.

 

e.g.

 

 

which is one of the illustrations found in a Peter Pan book next to a full page of text.

 

In that way you decrease significantly the amount you have to draw and increase the quality of each illustration. As an example in the newest update you could basically condense the comic pages to just a big illustrations with all the characters standing around the main character as he is scared off by the parrot.

 

Moving on, I believe that your reasons for doing that change are also somewhat flawed. Most amateur artists start off with just ONE series until they get LOADS of experience to be able to handle two. In US comics, most professionals work in only ONE series for a period of months before moving on and even they consider that one page/day is ideal. Bottom line: focus on one of the two ideas/comic series you have, give it your all to produce the best art you can and leave the other one for the future when you will have improved both in art and storytelling.

 

unless you want to be a writer and not a comic artist in which case, touche.

I know its difficult, I didnt plan to have more than one serie at a time, but I had the idea o Dead+Heart while working on Bleak and I simply couldnt not do it.

I changed also because I love books and comics, and i think Bleak fits in both formats, I really want to mix a comic with a novel instead of an illustrated book, its simply what I wish to do and i know its not a conventional idea but I honestly dont care, creativity shouldnt have rules.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 05:43 AM

I thought you stated in you fb page that it wasnt really what you wanted to do, since it never started out that way, but that it was sth you HAD to do due to time constraints vs quality of art produced..........

 

Either way, i am not trying to impose rules, you are right there are no rules in creativity. Only that this is not a matter of creativity, its a matter of the format chosen and whether it conveys the message you are trying to get to the world in a suitable way or not. For me, I just think that the transition between the two media was too abrupt and did not really work (which is why i proposed the idea of doing this like an illustrated book).

 

Of course, its your decision in the end; I just offered my thoughts since you went public about it.


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:19 AM

I thought you stated in you fb page that it wasnt really what you wanted to do, since it never started out that way, but that it was sth you HAD to do due to time constraints vs quality of art produced..........

Either way, i am not trying to impose rules, you are right there are no rules in creativity. Only that this is not a matter of creativity, its a matter of the format chosen and whether it conveys the message you are trying to get to the world in a suitable way or not. For me, I just think that the transition between the two media was too abrupt and did not really work (which is why i proposed the idea of doing this like an illustrated book).

Of course, its your decision in the end; I just offered my thoughts since you went public about it.

Yes i appreciate your thoughts, i was just explaining that i dont care about rules like the ones you are mentioning, it doenst bother me changing formats in the middle of the story.

The reasons to change started with how slow i draw yes, which makes it difficult and frustating to me to try to create a full chapter week after week. But thats not the only reason, i wouldnt have changed if i didnt think it was a good idea and its a more pleasurable way for me to work on the story and more interesting since the chapters are created much faster.

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 09:05 PM

http://www.thedreamc...k/en/0/5/page/1

New chapter! comments appreciated


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 04:48 PM

I'll echo Sexy Rat here. It's impossible for me to believe you're an amateur. This looks like a legitimate published manga.


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:02 PM

I'll echo Sexy Rat here. It's impossible for me to believe you're an amateur. This looks like a legitimate published manga.

Thanks a lot!
Well...unfortunally i dont live in japan so i cant get any publishers to notice me xD

Any thoughts on the story you feel like sharing please do! I like hearing the readers opinions on my stuff


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 09:34 PM

The art still does look a bit awkward. It's mostly in Sane's face that I get a bit cringy. Other than that I do like the sharp lines.


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 09:05 PM

check this out: http://onemangaforum...7257-deadheart/  if you are still interested in my stuff


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 12:04 AM

an AMAZING fanart of Bleak:

http://ritsusoul.dev...Bleak-493543963


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Posted 16 November 2014 - 10:28 PM

I released a 21 page preview, read it on my site or on batoto

and I give my thanks to the only guy girl following this thread so far haha.

As always, comments appreciated

Post on the Dead+Heart thread, comment there if you read the chapter!

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