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#1 DarkNemesis

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 07:51 AM

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Chapter 401 Fan Translation

 

 

 


They betrayed Rai long before Previous Lord decided to enter eternal sleep so their were traitors from start.

Zarga betrayed Rai because he didn't believed in Lukedonian ideals. He knew his path was wrong but he couldn't stop himself once he crossed the line.

Urokai betrayed Rai because Rai gave humans more importance. Rai killed his own kind for the sake of humans + Frankenstein.

Gradeus: Didn't got chance to use his powers as he pleased. Rai would have killed him if he tried to abuse his powers.

Roctis: Love for his crazy daughter. Was hesitant till the last moment of betrayal.
 
Plus Raskreia herself said in season 3 that her father respected the wishes of the traitors when they said that they didn't want to enter eternal sleep. Previous Lord allowed them to not enter eternal sleep.

(Maybe author retconed that)

 
 

 


Think this was recon considering how she was annoyed with the grandpa, who she was latter ok with when she realized Lord told him not to go to sleep to lead the new generation of CL
Thus implied that other then him, everyone else should have gone to sleep.
 
 
True, but there was also the scene how he was annoyed about Lord going to sleep and him going to sleep as well.
 
 
Didn't I say that for him, as it was her fault really? So I wouldn't really call him a traitor but just bad luck dad.
 
 
 
Well, with the exception of Ignus and Ragus, while they had thoughs of betrayal, they didn't really take actions until Lord's sleep.
 
True, but at least they felt more emotions then Ragus in their meeting, at least a sense of saddness they were fighting. Unlike Ragus.

 
 

 


They made Rai fight Muzaka 820 years ago so I think they were having the thoughts of betraying long before Previous Lord decided to enter eternal sleep.
 
I don't think author retconed this in season 3 when Raskreia was angry with Gejutel for his supposed betrayal. She mentioned that Gejutel and the traitors were the ones who didn't wanted to enter eternal sleep and Previous Lord respected their wishes.
Even in his recorded message, the Previous Lord said that the clan leaders who agree with him has decided to enter eternal sleep along with him.

 
 

 


Oh. need to watch OVA as well then.
 
Though, still going to say Ragus shouldn't be that close to Rai based on their interactions during the fight.

 
 

 


I think that it was the arrival of Franken & the weird (from Traitor POV) closeness between Rai & Franken, that spurred the rapid growth of jealousy & caused the sudden change in Traitors.
Before Franken, they truly thought they could influence Rai & work around him.
After Franken, when it became apparent that Rai was giving preference to humans (lowly, undeserving in Traitor POV), then the relationship changed & they categorized Noblesse as obstacle to their new life, new world order.

 
 

 


I went digging, and you were 75% right,
http://www.webtoons....&episode_no=174,
But, the recorded message didn't say anything about clan leaders not agreeing with him. Rather, he asked Gejutel not to go to sleep.
http://www.webtoons....&episode_no=196
so my bad with the memory then.

 
 

 


Apparently Old Lord didn't realize that the Traitor Gaju wanted to steal the world from Lascrea's grasp.
He thought they just wanted a bit more time (which could mean hundreds of years) before obediently following him into eternal napdom.

 

 

NOTE: Left convo about future chapters in previous thread.


Edited by DarkNemesis, 19 April 2016 - 07:53 AM.

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Posted 20 April 2016 - 03:57 AM

402 fan translations:

http://m.webtoons.co...G&teamVersion=0
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 06:54 AM

It's good to see Rael developing into a more likable character now.

 

And Seira!! oh what have you done to Rael :wub:


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Posted 20 April 2016 - 07:37 AM

Will Seira and Rael finally be a couple? Or will Seira put Rael in the VIP room in the Friend Zone? Stay tuned!


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Posted 20 April 2016 - 08:53 AM

I liked Rael when he was arrogant and treated modified humans as trash... Now he's becoming another good guy.
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 04:41 PM

I liked Rael when he was arrogant and treated modified humans as trash... Now he's becoming another good guy.

Well what could he say when he had to call on them for help when he destroyed the kitchen?

No way to keep considering them trash when he had to call them for help.


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Posted 25 April 2016 - 09:20 AM

406: https://m.facebook.c...id=u_0_2b&mdf=1
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Posted 25 April 2016 - 09:35 AM

Spoiler Chapter 406 Spoiler

 

Shouldn't the latest chapter be out by now on Webtoons? 403?


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Posted 25 April 2016 - 09:58 AM

Spoiler Chapter 406 Spoiler

 

Shouldn't the latest chapter be out by now on Webtoons? 403?

Nope. Remember they changed the time? Around 13-14 hours remaining... It will be out around 12:00 pm EST
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Posted 25 April 2016 - 09:59 AM

Are you shitting me? When did that happen? Obviously. No. I don't remember. :(


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Posted 25 April 2016 - 10:04 AM

Are you shitting me? When did that happen? Obviously. No. I don't remember. :(

Isn't that the time from last few months?
 
13 hours remaining for the translations to be out...
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Posted 25 April 2016 - 10:08 AM

Shit. I temporarily forgot that Noblesse is on Tuesdays. Otherwise you're right. It comes out on 12AM EST.


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Posted 25 April 2016 - 10:57 AM

Summary of 406:
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Posted 25 April 2016 - 11:21 PM

403's translations are out:

http://www.webtoons....&episode_no=404

Author said that 403 marks the end of Season 7.
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Posted 26 April 2016 - 01:40 PM

LINE mistranslated one of Lord's dialogue.
"You of all people cannot let yourself get caught up in the changes of this world."

The correct dialogue :

"Unlike the rest, you should not mind getting swept in the wave of changes in the world."
 
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Posted 27 April 2016 - 06:56 AM

403 fan translations: http://m.webtoons.co...G&teamVersion=0

No one liked the latest chapter?

The artwork is so detailed recently.
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Posted 27 April 2016 - 08:36 AM

More like not much to talk about. Typical end arc chapter.

 

Only difference was crazy eyes joining WW. 



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Posted 02 May 2016 - 09:21 AM

407:

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Posted 02 May 2016 - 09:27 AM

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

 

OH THIS ARC IS BOUT TO BE THAT FYAH!!!!!


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Posted 02 May 2016 - 09:37 AM

I really hope Muzaka teaches that bastard (Maduke) a lesson. The ending was so sad... But I expected it knowing she was loyal to Muzaka.
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