That's a joke. Why don't you try going to a support group for soldiers with PTSD and tell them that they actually don't need professional therapy, all they need to do is read some Plato and they'll be just perfect? While you're at it, you should make sure to inform a clinically depressed person that all they need is to realize that Aristotle said that happiness depends on ourselves and that'll suddenly make them decide not to kill themselves.
And that's just me bringing up two major disorders that can't be fixed by magic philosophy.
But please, continue to handwave the applications and claim that all people need to do is a bunch of "self discovery", completely ignoring that people with these conditions are in absolutely no state of mind to begin any sort of grandiose spiritual/mental journey that you seem to be preaching as the answer to anything.
This is the best passage to indicate you frankly have no clue what you're talking about. In loads of cases, due to the nature of their condition, the person in question already has a deepseated denial or motivation to hide or deny their condition at all cost due to the social stigmas of being labeled as "mentally ill," even(or especially) to close friends and family.
Eating disorders and depression both fall under these lines, among others.
Yeah, except that the people who need therapy to find peace aren't of rationally sound mind.
Also, if I was suffering from mental illness and saw this line comparing my struggles and issues to a dog shitting in your shoes, I would be fucking disgusted.
@mods, while this discussion is a bit off topic, I do think it has relevance to the topic at hand considering the role of psychology in LGBT discussions even if it isn't directly about those issues at the moment. Either that, or can we have a separate thread for discussing the role of psychology in society if you'd rather keep everything separate?
whats with all the statistics about death? what do they say at all against what im saying? you cant just post random statistics about mental health issues and expect them to fit your agenda.
none o this says anything about whether a single ne of these people had philosophical teachings. ust tha a lot of people like to ill themselves over their mental disorders and whatnot.
also for the record I fail to see how the suicidal thoughts of someone terminally ill has anything to do with mental health issues.
as for the link on social stigma: this too can be accounted for as ignorance, because anyone who truly practices the teachings im talking about understands enough to knw that nobody is exactly the same and that everybody's problem needs a different solution.
I see nothing anywhere that backs up your claim that my claim is one of ignorance. just a bunch of meaningless statistics about death meant to scare people into believing that someone somewhere has concocted the perfect way to live your life that will grant you infinite happiness and lead you to live a ninty year old life. its simply not true. if someone had such a secret they'd e so happy they'd have shared it with the entire world for free. but with the proper teachings you can create your own solution that works for you and allows you to live within society by your own standards and not anyone else's, whch at the end of the day is whats most important.
an your post about anorexia only illustrates my point. anorexia is a disease born out of social convention and can only be found in people who don't have the proper mental training I'm talking about. an anorexic persons only drive towards their eating disorder is that of the eyes of society. and again. if these people had the teachings I talk about, they would understand enough to not let the hollow echos of societies expectations dictate the way they chose to abuse they're body.