ToG is good in my opinion. Not the greatest thing ever, but good. Plus, the fights are well done. What fights are you (@Red Haired Shanks) and @Fulmine thinking of when it comes to good (or even great) fight scenes?
Noblesse, to name one of your favourites has pretty decent fight scenes for example.
A little bit repetitive these days, but you can clearly see the moves of the opponents and the physical action is well demonstrated.
Speed, agility, physical attacks. Of course many times you'll have the opponents drawn still in one panel and by drawing many lines you will imply that they have exchanged a barrage of attacks,
like some panels in Frankenstein's fight with that Blond werewolf, or you'll see some swordsman pulling off an attack with a weird name
that would have some weird shape (dragon, or water stream for example) now and then, but in those two comics this is how fights are drawn 90% of the time.
Can you call the fight between Karaka and Yuri good? Or the fights of Baam? There are only a couple of fight scenes I have liked.
Like the ones in the first arc where he was reintroduced as Viole. Or the first fight ever of Anak's team.
My golden standard for great fight scenes is Battle Angel Alita!
Vinland Saga, Berserk, or even less battle oriented mangas like Parasyte are also very good at that front.
Of course the same goes without saying for the majority of martial arts mangas.
But there are even fantasy action mangas not very dissimilar to One Piece and ToG that have tremendously inspired and creative fight scenes.
I am talking about JoJo's Bizarre Adventures.
World Building, Story and Characters > fighting
Thats why i don't consider One Piece "mediocre". ToG has its other problems like the pacing(OP is guilty of this aswell but not as bad) but i still enjoy ToG abit, just prefer if it focused less on Baam and his constant powerups, feels like is leaving the other characters behind( Rak ).
I agree but you can have both and there are manga that have both.
I mentioned a couple of them above.
Also the characters and storytelling are mediocre, you can even call them bad, in both ToG and OP.
I just like some of them, like Sanji or Shanks, or Baam and I also like many bits and parts of both manga, be it arcs, scenes, or ideas.
Skypiea arc for example is one of my favourites because I like the dream-like sky world Oda created.
I like both comics, but can't rate them high, when there are manga that can stand equally with real literature and have the vibe of art-house films.
Edited by Red Haired Shanks, Yesterday, 08:46 PM.