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#41 D.Hyuga

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 05:07 AM

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Don't forget that DD pirates fought not only SH but ridiculous amount of NW pirates too.

Vergo, Pica, Trebol, Diamante, Lao G, Senor, Machvise, Dellinger, Gladius, Buffalo, Baby, Monet, Sugar, Jora

 

vs

 

Sanji, Zoro, Brook, Jinbe, Franky, Nami, Robin, Chopper, Usop.

 

And I didn't took into consideration CC and Viola as they are not core members of DD pirates.



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 05:51 AM

If the Art fruit is Vergo's it would have been completely different LOL

 

Jola should have eaten the Ton fruit and Mach Vise should have been a normal fighter like Lao G, Senor and Dellinger.

 

And DD family is still at least the 6th-7th strongest pirate crew now (after Yonkou, Luffy's Grand Fleet and maybe remnant of WB pirates).

 

 

But yeah, at this point most crews are top-heavy. Also the mid-tier and below of the crew would just engage in battle royal or gag scenes and stuffs. Only the top guys have the privilege of 1vs1 fights


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Posted 02 October 2018 - 02:13 PM

If the Art fruit is Vergo's it would have been completely different LOL

Jola should have eaten the Ton fruit and Mach Vise should have been a normal fighter like Lao G, Senor and Dellinger.

And DD family is still at least the 6th-7th strongest pirate crew now (after Yonkou, Luffy's Grand Fleet and maybe remnant of WB pirates).


But yeah, at this point most crews are top-heavy. Also the mid-tier and below of the crew would just engage in battle royal or gag scenes and stuffs. Only the top guys have the privilege of 1vs1 fights


You think the new wb crew could beat the dd crew?
 
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Posted 03 October 2018 - 01:30 AM

You think the new wb crew could beat the dd crew?

Not sure but that's why I wrote 6th-7th. I'd say DD family has bigger chance at 70/30.

 

Marco, Jozu and Vista could fight DD and I need to see more of the other 11 Commanders to know if they can handle Pica and the haxes. If they are Oven, Daifuku and Perosperos level then they are likely can. BUt yeah, toy and art fruits are too powerful, which is why Oda gagscened them


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Posted 05 October 2018 - 01:33 PM

Well we finally got a glimpse of the other top commanders and it appears neither of them are a lady, so the " king and queen " theory can be put to rest now. I'm betting both of them are just as strong as jack ( maybe stronger? ) or slightly weaker.



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Posted 05 October 2018 - 04:09 PM

Well we finally got a glimpse of the other top commanders and it appears neither of them are a lady, so the " king and queen " theory can be put to rest now. I'm betting both of them are just as strong as jack ( maybe stronger? ) or slightly weaker.

You underestimate Odas trolling capabilities.
One of the other 2 calamities will be the strongest newkama in the world aka the queen. Hahaha, I can see it as clear as day.

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Posted 06 October 2018 - 05:31 PM

You underestimate Odas trolling capabilities.
One of the other 2 calamities will be the strongest newkama in the world aka the queen. Hahaha, I can see it as clear as day.

 

One of them could be a buff amazon... snu snu ;)



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Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:00 AM

If all the three calamities are the same strength as katakuri then that would compensate the lack of strong fighters.
So far the BM pirates crew wins against the beast pirates.

BM < kaido
Sweet commanders < calamities
Ministers > Headliners
Fighters and homies > gifters

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 08:54 AM

Put BM=Kaido



#50 Fulmine

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 10:19 AM

Put BM=Kaido

As long as he doesn't have sake thirst pang which makes him go rampaging every few days


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 05:40 PM

If all the three calamities are the same strength as katakuri then that would compensate the lack of strong fighters.
So far the BM pirates crew wins against the beast pirates.

BM < kaido
Sweet commanders < calamities
Ministers > Headliners
Fighters and homies > gifters

 

 

lol wrong dude.

 

you forgot the "Captain's rule of OP"- C=S therefore C1 V C2 = S1 v S2

 

C= crew's total strength and S= the strongest member of that crew.

 

so- a battle between crew 1 and crew 2 is ACTUALLY a battle between the strongest member of crew 1 vs the strongest member of crew 2.

 

since BM is weaker then kiadou, kiadou's crew is stronger. Its math dude.


 

Put BM=Kaido

 

well since kaidou is the strongest pirate......and bm isnt..... i would say you are wrong in your math.....


 

Well we finally got a glimpse of the other top commanders and it appears neither of them are a lady, so the " king and queen " theory can be put to rest now. I'm betting both of them are just as strong as jack ( maybe stronger? ) or slightly weaker.

 

I for one am glad to see pica's dad is doing well for himself. I sure am curious though how his son meet up with DD. And I wonder what that would be like if DD ever double crossed kiadou.

kiadou "oh no my smile stopped coming, king i need you to go to DR and kill the DD crew."

king "um.......about that....you see there is this guy there......"

kiadou "you may leave your son alive"

 

 

but seriously though. did Oda really run out of character design? or is that actually pica's dad? or is pica such a forgettable character that oda wanted a second go around to see if he could make it work?


 
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Posted 14 October 2018 - 01:30 AM

Maybe Pica's dad/brother/sister was the reason DD and Kaidou cooperated in the first place LOL

 

Network sure is important in business hahaha


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Posted 23 November 2018 - 03:28 AM

So King is Pica's long-lost brother who, like Vergo, went undercover as a WG prison ship warden. But Kaidou sank that battleship and recruited him BB style. He ate a mythical bird fruit that makes Marco look like idiot.

And Oda just has to put a sword on that King's design...so Zolo can fight him? The sword looks so out of place IMO. Shiliew's sword dojo fellow disciple, maybe? :laugh:

 

Queen is Ivankov's long-lost newkama brother. Got hormone'ed into a fatass. Looks like he has methalic screws and stuffs. Kid and Sanji's opponent confirmed!

 

Good so far?


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Posted 23 November 2018 - 09:04 AM

Even though the beast pirates have a lot of fodders on their side and a lot of headliners. I only see the core members as kaido, king queen and jack. They are the smallest crew (in terms of core members).
Small crew but at the same time they are all strong.
Jack who has a inferiority complex towards king and queen. Calling them big brothers and calling kaido sir, as if he was in the military. Yet he saw himself superior to Fuji and Sengoku.
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Posted 23 November 2018 - 07:12 PM

So King is Pica's long-lost brother who, like Vergo, went undercover as a WG prison ship warden. But Kaidou sank that battleship and recruited him BB style. He ate a mythical bird fruit that makes Marco look like idiot.
And Oda just has to put a sword on that King's design...so Zolo can fight him? The sword looks so out of place IMO. Shiliew's sword dojo fellow disciple, maybe? :laugh:

Queen is Ivankov's long-lost newkama brother. Got hormone'ed into a fatass. Looks like he has methalic screws and stuffs. Kid and Sanji's opponent confirmed!

Good so far?


Well pica also pulled a sword put of no where that was out of place. So it only makes sense his dad does as well.

Hey I am just glad these people aren't like sting from FT. Holding a sword on his hip the whole manga and never using it at all.
 
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Posted 25 November 2018 - 02:11 AM

Well pica also pulled a sword put of no where that was out of place. So it only makes sense his dad does as well.

Hey I am just glad these people aren't like sting from FT. Holding a sword on his hip the whole manga and never using it at all.

You will see King use the sword as a shield only


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Posted 25 November 2018 - 05:35 AM

King looks like he stole his clothes from an ID prison guard, wouldn't surprise me if he was one of the bigshots that escaped two years ago (we still need to see some of those, after all).

Queen also has a bit of an Okama-vibe... btw, is the mechanical arm his own or is he disassembling Kidd's?



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Posted 25 November 2018 - 05:49 AM

King looks like he stole his clothes from an ID prison guard, wouldn't surprise me if he was one of the bigshots that escaped two years ago (we still need to see some of those, after all).

Queen also has a bit of an Okama-vibe... btw, is the mechanical arm his own or is he disassembling Kidd's?

That means Kaidou just left his Top Commander in prison without rescuing him like WB did. King's silhouette was in the flashback 20 years ago on Wano so he's not a new recruit. Unless this guy for some reason looks exactly like Kaidou's old underling :hmm:


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Posted 25 November 2018 - 09:33 AM

It's possible for king to have been arrested after wanos siege and escaped with BB.
Very unlikely but possible.
Jack was more interested in fighting 2 admiral marines thabt doing a rescue to ID. It says a lot. If we think about it, ID forces you to go down in order to reach the lower levels, that can take hours which would give time for admirals to be dispatched from MF. ID is a good prison because of its location. Luffy and BB succeeded because of special circumstances (MF war).

I think it's very unlikely for king to have been in ID. His design is just a design. One think I think it's interesting is that he is close to shilliew as he is to katakuri in terms of design.


I hope zoro and sanji don't fight king and queen in a 1v1. It would simply show that they've been holding back all this time.
Well.. not sanji. He would get a boast from his new suit but not zoro. If zoro gets a 1vs1 against king it would mean that he could have defeated DD, at least be more helpful that law, and that mihawk was a better teacher than Rayleigh. It would also mean that for the duration of FI, PH, DR and Zou zoro was stronger than Luffy.

I hope oda meets my expectations and we get team zoro(usopp, robin, Franky) Vs king and team sanji(brook, nami, chooper) Vs queen.

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Posted 25 November 2018 - 03:47 PM


If zoro gets a 1vs1 against king it would mean that he could have defeated DD, at least be more helpful that law

 

Stop underestimating DD.

DD is SB level, and SB are high above yonko  commanders but below yonko.

Wevil is trashing WB remnants alone.






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