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#261 D.Hyuga

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 06:43 AM

Despite a whole herd of CoA users in NW. BB remarked that it's been a while since Ace was last hit. Tells you his fighting skill or Logia manipulation or both are excellent (maybe even CoO but well, maybe not looking at how he fights)

Or OPverse was different then, Oda didn't plan for everyone to have coa, coo. So in a way, BB-Ace was one of the last haki-less fights in OP.



#262 Abaroxa

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:13 AM

Or OPverse was different then, Oda didn't plan for everyone to have coa, coo. So in a way, BB-Ace was one of the last haki-less fights in OP.


It can all be easily explained.
ace vs BB > Lets say Ace had good CoO which helped him dodge attacks like katakuri did in WCI. BB negates his fruit power and now he cant dodge the way he wanted. Ace can spam fire attacks and go with CoA for physical attacks but he won't be able to dodge.

ace vs akainu > fire fruit gets decimated by lava fruit so fast ace didn't get a chance to react. Btw he didn't lose the fight he only got injured. Luffy normally begins a fight taking a lot of damage. Ace could've simply stood up a run away after the first hit but for some reason decided to sacrifice his own life for luffys one.

#263 Fulmine

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 10:18 AM

Or OPverse was different then, Oda didn't plan for everyone to have coa, coo. So in a way, BB-Ace was one of the last haki-less fights in OP.

So? Doesn't matter. We update. That's all there is to it. Unless it contradicts something very important that threatens (or already did) to completely break the verse's laws, you should just accept past feats in light of new info. Which is not that hard to do in Ace's case given his background, potential, encounter, reputation etc. Besides Luffy (by virtue of being the main character), no one holds a candle to Ace among the young generation.

 

 

Also by the time that Banaro fight happened, CoO and CoC already showed up. And Oda likely thought about how to deal with Logia when he created them. Relying on finding out individual weakness every damn time is not that easy, especially for a main character like Luffy who is not brainy (Figuring out Croc's and being immune to Enel's by pure luck is the limit. Anything more is too contrived). Ace was even 100% relaxed when BB said he was a logia which means Ace had a way to deal with Logia intangibility. Right after that he noted that ''an attack like this (the firefly one) should not hurt you (BB) if you were a Logia''. Which kinda means there are indeed other kinds of attack that can work.


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