Did Oda put Zoro, law and kidd on the same level?
That he did. He also did it before though. Pika being cut was on an even greater scale then the mountain at DR being cut after all.
Guess that the 10k followers of Orochi will quickly change sides when they'll see this. which will even the battlefield. Having all Oden retainers + the yakuza boss + momonosuke + seeing that Kyoshiro was a scabbard will make a lot of them switch sides.
I would find it really stupid for them to switch sides again. They dont have any relations to the Kozouki after their batrayal and after them having no problem with Momo to be executed. Neither to they have any connection to the alliance.
So Usopp +Chopper will take on all the Numbers at once, nice
Other than that, while Kaidou will probably mop the floor with the Scabbards next chapter, maybe they can do some damage to make the rest of the fight easier for Luffy? The panel reminded me of the lower ranking Marines attacking WB, even if they got beaten afterwards, they still did lasting damage.
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well we know that Ashura and Denjiro fought Kaidou with just the 2 of them (Kinemon specifically mentions Ashuras power at one point iirc). Therefore i would definately put them close or even above current Zoro. I doubt they are defeated so easy even by a yonkou. Since Wanos Samurai are that noteworthy that Sengoku even makes Akainu flinch by just speaking of one of them, shows that Wano is famed for them and that they deserve their praise. Moreover its not only Oden who has world-wide fame but Ryumma seems to have given the WG a run for their money before as well. I doubt they forgot that. Furthermore i doubt that the WG would not have taken over Wano (i.e. as a means for revenge) if they would have had the strength to do so just like that.
Its not like all samurais are above all other swordsman that aint from Wano but i'd say that the upper ones are stronger than most other powerful swordsman in op. I so far only see 4 exceptions which are Mihawk, Shanks, Fuji and Shiryuu (btw Shiryuu has been theorized to have connection to Wano for quite a while now).
I still dont think that Kaidou loosing focus would lead to him already getting scared right away, i think he is simply too tanky for that. Would not dislike it either though.
Quick question, what is the difference between momo believing it is his right to be the ruler of wano and DD believing it is his right to be a heavenly dragon? Both are repulsive to me but I guess to the Japanese audience momo's demand for power as a birthright is ok because he is "good" and DD's demand for power as a birthright is because he is "bad"..... because he DD is bad, no quotes, DD is legit bad. but still.....I think that a "I am born better than you that is why I must rule" mentality is wrong no matter if the holder of that mentality is good or bad. but what ever..... momo is the symbol of our revolution.....
"should I shoot king in the head or the sword, well if I shoot him in the sword then he wont have a sword anymore. And swords are scary!!! sword it is, that is clearly the best play."
You know what. Luffy has the biggest crew in OP. There isn't a single crew in all of OP that has 10 competent people in it except the straw hat crew. I know that WB and Kiadou and BM all have massive crews with 100s or 1000s of pirates, but from what we have seen so far..... kiadou can count on one hand the number of subordinates he has that can count passed 10 when they are not barefoot. (wait one second, that cool runnings insult doesn't make any sense, why would I need to see my toes to count passed 10? is that really a thing? couldn't I just start over with my hands?)
It is a shame that antagonists in OP don't heavily invoke the "I don't need friends I can do everything on my own" trope. because in OP those antagonists would actually have a point.
over all the chapter was nice, I hope I am not being too naive when I say this: it looks like next chapter things will finally get moving.
And yet u support someone like Trump who represents nothing except for such a wannabe mentality.....these americans.....
Ya u know how often Oda writes stuff like that, i doubt it makes sense to still remind us that a lot of things he writes dont make sense.
10 really? Since when are Chopper and Sanji competent from and overall point of view? Thats like saying Carrot is powerful or knowledgable....
While i agree that the chapter was nice and that things progressed, i instantly need to remind myself that i have said this about 3 out of the last 5 chapters....ergo not fast / big enough progress, since we're still waiting for the fight to actually start for more than a page....
when did that start happening? Because I have been feeling that the translations have been a little weird for a while now.
Pretty while ago, about the time when mangastream, jaiminisbox and other websites notified us that they r no longer translating OP since its gonna have an official release on Mangaplus anyways. I think it was roughly about 4 months? Mayhaps more mayhaps less aint sure.
Also the french translation are easily some of the worse since I starter to read the manga at the beginning of the time skip. I'm legitimately getting angry reading the dribble.
Jaimini's Box and Mangastream (the two higher-quality scan-sites) both stopped last December. That's a bit after the the official site got weekly updates (on sundays), and since then, the early translations on fridays have just been scraping by.
ok @captain kidd there is the right timeline, told u i was unsure about the exact date.
I know Kinemon and rest will get destroyed next week, but hot damn if that wasn't an awesome last page of group attack!
I'm honestly completely at a lost here on who's going to fight now, so I'll just seat back and enjoy the show.
Whom do u think has the biggest death flag currently Kine, Marco, another scabbard, Law or someone else?
I'd say out of all this arc Law (or his crew), Marco and Kine are going to die, hopefully Momo and Kanjuroo (yes i dont think he is dead yet) die as well. I could also see Kidd or Killer slay Apoo.
As for the whole 'ODEN!' quote in the end, I think he was in denial. He didn't want to believe the weak little kid was Oden's, which he probably contrasted with his own child, plus the kid hasn't aged in 20 years which is impossible. Suddenly seeing all the red scabbards and some of them haven't aged was a massive reality check that probably fried a few circuits in Kaidou's head. He can no longer deny what he thought was just a fairy tale, which means all these 'pups' coming to take his head might not be just a nuisance either. I think that is the panel where Kaidou's entire world has hit a contradiction, making him more dangerous than he has probably ever been.
We already knew the scabbards would be SOL int hat situation but now they are REALLY boned. I got a feeling next chapter they are going to get wrecked fast and hard.
Might also be part of his reaction.
i doubt all the scabbards will go done this easy, i could see like 1 or 2 not being able to handle a single hit, but at least some already directly fought Kaidou himself (ashura and denjiro). Moreover the fame of Wanos samurai should be presented well, thus they should actually be able to make their stand imo.
This was a pretty good chapter, after 80 chaps we finally get the feeling that the fight is about to happen/ finally started. I was a bit surprised that noone actually felt them coming though. Mayhaps they all weren't expecting it but still.... 2 yonkous there after all...
Kanjuroo aint dead, its his clone, i bet he actually is going after hiyori. Oda does not kill often after all.
Momo still bores me, can we pls kill him off and finally be done with him? Not one good scene with him since DR..... well ok the bathing with Robin and Nami was good, but thats solely because of Nami and Robin!
Scabbards scenes were well done, nice drawings and facial expressions.
Luffy saying its not his fight to start was also pretty darn good. Though he did something similar with Mihawk vs Zoro, its partially still feels a bit out of character for him to actually stick to a plan/not be totally braindead and simply rush in.
Zoro seemed pretty winded, Law was totally fine, Kidd was bleeding. Since Law most likely does not fight them 1v1 physically but simply uses his room to cut them (or simply teleport them somewhere else) its not that surprising that Law seems fine, although we have to keep in mind that he just arrived, while Kidd and Zoro have been going for it for a while now. Thus pretty reassuring that Oda once more underlines that: Zoro~Kidd,Law, while Luffy>Kidd, Law, Zoro
I am still unsure when it comes to Yamatos overall power. I mean she does not know how to "defuse" the shackles with CoA, but does that truly mean she aint having advanced arnament at all? She could simply not know that its possible to apply it like that to an object or not? Or she could simply not know that the "explosion-time" seemingly gets delayed a bit when having advanced CoA applied to it.
She seemed to have 0 problem with facing Luffy, still i guess we have to wait and see.
Well Samurais and Ninjas being 10k people, with mayhaps 10 stronger/worth noting enemies i am curious as to which powers they got and as to whom they fight.
Hopefully no more offscreened fights and hopefully the battle truly starts now, i dont want any scene switch with useless dragging.
Wait Sanji? Finally a Mr. Prince scene once more? Seriously, nice! ------Well wait i already gave up with him being useful ever again. Fuc* it who cares about him anymore? He will simply be chasing woman endagering the crew by doing nothing helpful once more. Such a liability he has become......praise the Lord for having given us Jinbei as a result of Sanjis uselessness. Even Oda could no longer bare Sanjis inadequacies.
Interesting that Oda choose to pinpoint Usoop+Chopper against the monsters right away, i would have though they (much like Zoro) would be chosen to actually fight "fodder" first and then going vs. the Monsters. Afterwards i could have seen the 2 of them alongside Brook and Franky and mayhaps the lesser (weaker) crewmembers of the Heart and Kidd pirates to fight like 2-4 from the F6 in an great battle. That way we would finally see some of their abilities and would get to know how they rank compared to the SHs. That is something i am hoping to get since we heard of the KxAxH and SHxH alliances to be formed.
Kaidou gets better and better, he actually hesitates from killing children by giving them a way out. Nicely done. Him loosing his focus because of him remembering his fight with Oden also has a notch to it, it increases Odens fame for having been the only one to actually scar Kaidou ever and in both ways physically and mentally i might add.
Still wondering why none of the F6 (Ulti and Page1 are on there way) do care whats happening at the banquet-hall. I mean would be neat if we see them challanging the alliance and showing their powers, but them not having heard that Yamato is at the banquet, especially with everyone constantly shouting for that to be the case, is strange for me.
Also wonder what is up with Drake and Hawkins.