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#41 The Witcher

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 02:47 PM

My bad... I just noticed. I'll delete it.


 

I'd really like if Mashima actually developed the romance element in this manga and had a 3-way thing with Natsu, Lucy and Lisanna with all the romcom hijinks that would ensue.

 

But this isn't that kind of manga...



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 04:15 PM

Eh, I think Lisanna is out of the romance race anyway. Lucy replaced her in Natsu and Happy's heart. IMO, any love triangle between them would feel weird since Lisanna hasn't shown that she's overly upset about Lucy taking her man at this point. She seems ok with it  :shrug:



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 08:52 PM

I'd really like if Mashima actually developed the romance element in this manga and had a 3-way thing with Natsu, Lucy and Lisanna with all the romcom hijinks that would ensue.

 

But this isn't that kind of manga...

 

True, but this is a comedy series, and that would most certainly be hilarious... Especially since Natsu would have no idea what they were trying to do.

 

 

Eh, I think Lisanna is out of the romance race anyway. Lucy replaced her in Natsu and Happy's heart. IMO, any love triangle between them would feel weird since Lisanna hasn't shown that she's overly upset about Lucy taking her man at this point. She seems ok with it  :shrug:

 

Not at all, she even told Lucy to stay close to him on Tenrou Island, because her presence gives him strength. I think she may have experienced something similar in Edolas watching Lucy Ashley and Natsu Dragion interact, so perhaps she assumed ahead of time that her Natsu and Lucy Heartfilia also had something?



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 09:08 PM

True, but this is a comedy series, and that would most certainly be hilarious... Especially since Natsu would have no idea what they were trying to do.



Not at all, she even told Lucy to stay close to him on Tenrou Island, because her presence gives him strength. I think she may have experienced something similar in Edolas watching Lucy Ashley and Natsu Dragion interact, so perhaps she assumed ahead of time that her Natsu and Lucy Heartfilia also had something?


Which is why I said that she didn't seem too upset

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 09:12 PM

True, but this is a comedy series, and that would most certainly be hilarious... Especially since Natsu would have no idea what they were trying to do.

 

 

 

Not at all, she even told Lucy to stay close to him on Tenrou Island, because her presence gives him strength. I think she may have experienced something similar in Edolas watching Lucy Ashley and Natsu Dragion interact, so perhaps she assumed ahead of time that her Natsu and Lucy Heartfilia also had something?

She also though she would never go back to her world. Hell, she didn't want to leave Edolas because she didn't want Edo Mira nd Elfman to be sad. It'd be really selfish to think Natsu wouldn't find someone else to maybe love.     


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 10:34 PM

She also though she would never go back to her world. Hell, she didn't want to leave Edolas because she didn't want Edo Mira nd Elfman to be sad. It'd be really selfish to think Natsu wouldn't find someone else to maybe love.     

 

You speak as if she lost the chance... Lisanna still has a chance to make her childhood dream come true. She does seem more likely to raise the issue than Lucy right now.



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Posted 07 April 2015 - 12:01 PM

@AndrewR5D4 : Given recent events in the past year, hell no.

 

Unless you are Kishimoto, a chapter that sets up a female lead and the male lead at the same time generally = the end-game pairing. 

 

Not only have Natsu and Lisanna had little to no meaningful interactions since she came back, but Lucy's Celestial Equip Magic has also pretty much rendered Lisanna even more irrelevant.  Lucy is drawing on the powers of the Celestial Spirits; Lisanna's Animal Soul only mimics the forms and physical abilities of animals, hardly a Magic of any notable power to speak of, and the situation would have to be painfully contrived (not to mention her being paired up with vastly more powerful Mages) for it to have any utility or relevance in an actual battle.

 

If there is any character that I would say the author should not have return to Fairy Tail, it would be her (her older siblings are another matter) because, to put it bluntly, she's been nothing but empty filler and a catalyst to place her siblings in harmful situations since she was brought back.


Edited by Saiyan5nine-tails, 07 April 2015 - 12:02 PM.

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Posted 07 April 2015 - 12:56 PM


Lisanna's Animal Soul only mimics the forms and physical abilities of animals, hardly a Magic of any notable power to speak of

 

False have your read Terra Formars look at what the animal abilities allow them to do.

 

- she could turn into a pit viper and poison someone

- she could turn into a eel and emit electricity

- She could turn into Dragon Milipeede and shoot cynade at people

- she could turn into a mantis shrimp and have super powerful arms and punching speed.

- she could turn into a beetle and lift stuff

- she could turn into a archerfish and spit water jets at people.


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Posted 10 April 2015 - 11:15 AM

Apparently you haven't been paying attention to both the power scheme of the manga and the types of Animal Soul that Lisanna has shown in the series.

 

Here's the list of Animal Souls she has used: Cat, Pig (in a flashback), Bird and Fish.  Fish is practically useless outside of swimming through the water, and Cat and Bird are only circumstantial and dependent on partial Take-Overs.  In other words, her abilities are completely generic.

 

Secondly, you are forgetting the kind of powers that exist in Fairy Tail as a whole.  In the grand scheme of things, Animal Soul is at the bottom rung of the Magic hierarchy barring fodder mages (the only kind of Mage her magic is actually good against).  So don't wax about hypothetical uses of her powers based off of another manga when her actual performance in the manga speaks for itself.  Besides, all of Lisanna's Animal Forms are all based on the "cute animals" archetype.  Do you seriously think Mashima would bother giving her anything like what you've suggested?


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Posted 10 April 2015 - 04:06 PM

she's like the female version of gajeel.



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Posted 10 April 2015 - 04:53 PM

Apparently you haven't been paying attention to both the power scheme of the manga and the types of Animal Soul that Lisanna has shown in the series.

 

Here's the list of Animal Souls she has used: Cat, Pig (in a flashback), Bird and Fish.  Fish is practically useless outside of swimming through the water, and Cat and Bird are only circumstantial and dependent on partial Take-Overs.  In other words, her abilities are completely generic.

 

Secondly, you are forgetting the kind of powers that exist in Fairy Tail as a whole.  In the grand scheme of things, Animal Soul is at the bottom rung of the Magic hierarchy barring fodder mages (the only kind of Mage her magic is actually good against).  So don't wax about hypothetical uses of her powers based off of another manga when her actual performance in the manga speaks for itself.  Besides, all of Lisanna's Animal Forms are all based on the "cute animals" archetype.  Do you seriously think Mashima would bother giving her anything like what you've suggested?

 

Dude is was mostly a joke, take a chill pill. Always with the crying about Lisanna.

 

and Take Over Animal can be as strong as the Author wants it too.

 

And a platypus is cute and poisonous, that  could be a trump card.


 

she's like the female version of gajeel.

 

Really Gajeel has fallen that low.


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Posted 10 April 2015 - 07:33 PM

@ddboy102 : We've already seen how strong Take Over Animal Soul is, meaning we've already seen how strong the author wants it to be - the strength level of fodder.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 07:23 PM

Who knows? Maybe she'll have a bigger bad of tricks next time we see her. It looks like everyone's getting new power (except people like Erza who were already badass).


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 12:15 AM

@AndrewR5D4 : In case you didn't notice, the members of Fairy Tail we saw in the recent chapters are all the characters who are essentially the main cast of the manga. 

 

Odds are that those guys will really be the only ones who receive any significant power-ups, while everyone else is left as dust. 

 

After all, what could Lisanna possibly gain that could ever make her meaningful as a combatant in the story?


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 06:22 AM

@AndrewR5D4 : In case you didn't notice, the members of Fairy Tail we saw in the recent chapters are all the characters who are essentially the main cast of the manga. 
 
Odds are that those guys will really be the only ones who receive any significant power-ups, while everyone else is left as dust. 
 
After all, what could Lisanna possibly gain that could ever make her meaningful as a combatant in the story?


I think the Strauss siblings and Laxus and his crew are still somewhat relevant- especially since Laxus is a shoe-in for next guild master. That being said, I agree that Lisanna will never be one of the most important members of FT

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 01:43 PM

I think the Strauss siblings and Laxus and his crew are still somewhat relevant- especially since Laxus is a shoe-in for next guild master. That being said, I agree that Lisanna will never be one of the most important members of FT

 

For what? Just being Makarov's grandson?

 

After the initiative Natsu's shown in bringing the guild back together, plus his recent powerup, I think HE deserves a shot at Guildmaster now.



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Posted 22 May 2015 - 02:07 PM

For what? Just being Makarov's grandson?
 
After the initiative Natsu's shown in bringing the guild back together, plus his recent powerup, I think HE deserves a shot at Guildmaster now.


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Pretty clear sign that Laxus being next guild master is what Mashima is going with. Could you honestly imagine Natsu as a guild master? He's more of a Gildarts type powerful ace.

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 11:36 AM

@Fleet : Which members of the Strauss siblings, since the ones that actually can fight and get focus are Elfman and Mirajane.  Lisanna is just there because Mashima's editor and the anime director begged him to bring the character back, despite said character not able to do anything of relevance.


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Posted 24 May 2015 - 11:45 AM

@Fleet : Which members of the Strauss siblings, since the ones that actually can fight and get focus are Elfman and Mirajane.  Lisanna is just there because Mashima's editor and the anime director begged him to bring the character back, despite said character not able to do anything of relevance.


I don't disagree that Lisanna probably won't get a fight of any real significance. She's still more important than people than Jet or Droy though. And since it was because of Lisanna that Elfman got as much focus as he did in the Tartaros Arc, I don't think you can just disregard her as totally unimportant.

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 11:54 AM

@Fleet : That's the problem, because Elfman was only in that situation because of Lisanna, just as how Mirajane was nearly killed (although no one in Fairy Tail dies) in the Tenrou Island arc because of Lisanna. 

 

Keep telling yourself that that was "important", but the character herself was entirely useless, as both situations which nearly resulted in her siblings' deaths came about because she can't even protect herself.


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