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#981 FrostyMouse

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:03 PM

How's UQ been?  Since it went on hiatus in order to change to monthly, I haven't read it.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 01:49 AM

How's UQ been?  Since it went on hiatus in order to change to monthly, I haven't read it.

It's been Meh since then. Ken has been going back to his Negima storylines and UQ Holder storyline has suffered for it imho.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 02:31 AM

To be fair, out of the 10 or so monthly chapters, only 3 of them were dedicated exclusively to flashbacks, but it's currently oriented in that direction, so there might be more to come.

 

Hm...

 

I'd say the new serialization started out pretty good, then it was amusing for a few more months, then it stopped on its tracks and it doesn't seem to want to go back. Fans of Negima might think otherwise, though.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 03:05 AM

The whole purpose indicates to me that Tota is being shown how MOTB was defeated and how Nagi was saved in that alternative timeline, which would tell him how to save Negi in this one.



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:17 PM

It's been Meh since then. Ken has been going back to his Negima storylines and UQ Holder storyline has suffered for it imho.

To be fair, out of the 10 or so monthly chapters, only 3 of them were dedicated exclusively to flashbacks, but it's currently oriented in that direction, so there might be more to come.

 

Hm...

 

I'd say the new serialization started out pretty good, then it was amusing for a few more months, then it stopped on its tracks and it doesn't seem to want to go back. Fans of Negima might think otherwise, though.

That's unfortunate to hear.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 09:59 PM

The problem with UQ has always been that it's been a juggling act, it never seems to nail the UQ cast and the Negima cast at the same time, one of them always falls flat.


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:50 PM

I dunno, I've had trouble ever giving a crap about the UQ cast, outside of Eva I really can't be bothered to care for anyone. Then against the Negima cast in UQ I don't really care much for either, but in the original Negima I actually got invested in most of the class. It took almost 100 chapters for me to start caring though.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:24 AM

The way I read Negima, it was very difficult for me to follow the series until the fabled Negi Vs Rakkan fight. After that, it was just a game of "how much more stupid awesome is this harem comedy gonna get", turning all sorts of unassuming characters into badasses one after another until the series ended abruptly and everyone cried. In hindsight, it kind of reminds me of Muv Luv...

 

The way UQ Holder started, I really got into it by how creative and over the top the fights were. This backed up by Akamatsu's easy to follow fight scenes and crunchyroll's high resolution pages, I was having too much fun to wonder if I liked the characters or not. Then all of this kind of stopped in favor of romantic comedy hijinks, and the occasional no stakes fight, which pretty much slowly killed the series for me until the point we are now.

 

I liked younger Eva, but she's gone forever for all intents and purposes, so it is no exaggeration to say that watching Kirie and Touta interacting is by far my biggest source of enjoyment in this series right now, and I'm dreading the moment when Akamatsu decides it's time to put her on a bus for the rest of the series.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:25 AM

I like the concept of UQ Holder, band of different types of immortals working together to help the planet, and most of the cast I was at least neutral towards and could see growing on me over time, I did for example like Santa and Kirie. The problem was it keeps jumping away from that to do literally anything else. When for example was the last time Santa spoke? More than two panels in a chapter? KA has some interesting base to work with, and even the "humans and immortals act differently due to time they have left" is neat and I was interested in the numbers but it's hard to focus on them when we leave it all behind so often to go back to the Negima cast, who don't get me wrong I'm dying to hear about what happened and what KA had in mind for Negima when he ended it early, but I feel the constant flip flopping only hurts both sides, but UQ especially because it doesn't have the history to fall back on


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“I promised, remember? I said I would save you even if it meant fighting the entire world.” “Yes…you did.”

Othinus narrowed her eye as the boy held her in his arms. She looked happy. She looked truly happy.

“But you don’t have to worry. I was already saved from the moment you said that to me.”


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 08:49 PM

Looks like Negima finally got a bit of closure to it. You know, minus the whole "where the hell is Arika" thing.


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“I promised, remember? I said I would save you even if it meant fighting the entire world.” “Yes…you did.”

Othinus narrowed her eye as the boy held her in his arms. She looked happy. She looked truly happy.

“But you don’t have to worry. I was already saved from the moment you said that to me.”


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 10:07 PM

I'd say "Right! Now we can finally move on!", but I get the feeling that I've said something to that effect in the past, and it did not end well.

 

I liked older Chisame. She looks good with Negi's glasses. I don't get the ending, though. What was this about "We'll beat him without cheats!"? What? You were gonna cheese the shit out of the final boss fight! ...and pretty much the same way they explained in this flashback-- with the added bonus of save states, time manipulation and 7 different kinds of immortality. Are they going to let The Mage of The Beginning go first or something?


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 11:02 PM

Yeah I thought the talk of doing it without cheats was a bit silly, but I think he meant without Asuna? I don't know it's kind of hazy. I was amused that Eva did eventually win over Nagi, but without mentioning what the hell happened to Arika it seems a little odd.


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“I promised, remember? I said I would save you even if it meant fighting the entire world.” “Yes…you did.”

Othinus narrowed her eye as the boy held her in his arms. She looked happy. She looked truly happy.

“But you don’t have to worry. I was already saved from the moment you said that to me.”


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 11:07 PM

I thought so too, but then I remembered Touta also has magic nullifying powers. I can only imagine he was talking about the army of teenage girls with superpowers ready to save him in the nick of time if things go south.

 

Who is this Arika that you keep talking about?


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 11:25 PM

Negi's mother and Nagi's wife, went missing the same time he did and promptly never mentioned again. 

 

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“I promised, remember? I said I would save you even if it meant fighting the entire world.” “Yes…you did.”

Othinus narrowed her eye as the boy held her in his arms. She looked happy. She looked truly happy.

“But you don’t have to worry. I was already saved from the moment you said that to me.”


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 09:23 AM

Huh...

 

...I didn't know there was a UQHolder OVA...

 

I'm not gonna judge until the actual series starts, but for now all I'm going to say is that I was not surprised.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:11 PM

The first episode of the anime is out now and it was pretty nice


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:49 PM

Honestly, it was better than I was expecting. Of course, I was expecting a train wreck, but even so, overall, I thought it was ok.

 

They made... ssssome minor changes, but I'm letting them all slide. Even if they're just appealing to the old Negima fanbase, I'll give the writers credit for giving Touta a reason to reach the top of the tower beyond "ADVENTURE!".

 

Anyways, this adaptation could still end up being a horrible mistake, but I'm a little bit hopeful now.


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Posted 08 October 2017 - 09:04 AM

...of course they're not done. Why would they be done? It's only been like three months worth of flashbacks. Break? Why, sure! Don't we need a break. From the break.

 

...

 

Anyways, the chapter was amusing. It's been a while since they hinted at it, but it feels like the guy has Re-Zero powers... but then I remember this is isn't another world-- just the future. The concepts of Levels and HP are not strange here, just... unusual to pull off in a fight. I'm not entirely sure what Cutlass' end goal is, though. Whittling UQ Holder's numbers down? Taking over the island? Some... artifact hidden in the resort? I don't know.

 

Either way, I'm ok with it. It's definitely better than... more flashbacks.


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 12:53 AM

Rather than Re; Zero it looks like his abilities are straight out of a videogame. His old body is still there after all, he reads stats, he has lives, he has an inventory and can see people's levels. He's more from SAO than anything


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“I promised, remember? I said I would save you even if it meant fighting the entire world.” “Yes…you did.”

Othinus narrowed her eye as the boy held her in his arms. She looked happy. She looked truly happy.

“But you don’t have to worry. I was already saved from the moment you said that to me.”


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Posted 09 October 2017 - 02:32 PM

It's definitely a videogame, but it's a weird mix of genres. RPGs with levels and stats don't get a stock of lives-- they get save states. It's not like you get a GAME OVER if you die three times in Final Fantasy 4. But then again, games that DO have stocks of lives like Contra don't have levels or stats.

 

So I guess it's some kind of... hardcore RPG that deletes your save file if you lose enough times? I dunno.

 

Second episode is out. it's still... aggresively ordinary. I don't have anything to complain about, but nothing to praise either. Just a bunch of changes that I don't really mind. I like Kuromaru's voice, but I don't like Karin's.


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