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#21 fararibmwz

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:43 AM

Just read all the chapters till 39 and I gotta say this was an amazing read. :shakefist:

 

Similar to Elfen lied in many ways but its no big deal

 

I think gamria's theory shouldn't be too far off from what the author has in store for us. But then I don't think we will know anytime soon


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:07 AM

Apparently Volume 3 of Brynhildr came with a short side story.  Fortunately, the Chinese scanlated it:

http://manhua.178.co...xet/20199.shtml

 

It expands a bit more on Ryouta and Kazumi's "date" at Akihabara

 

Spoiler


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:23 AM

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Woah so the chinese scans are updated to the latest chapter. Guess I will read those while waiting for the english one


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#24 gamria

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:36 PM

Do you actually mean the Gin from detective conan? :D

 

Woah so the chinese scans are updated to the latest chapter. Guess I will read those while waiting for the english one

 

Yes I did, but spoiler tag next time please

 

Latest chapters are at Chapter 48.  You probably won't understand most of it, but all I will say is that the coming conflict with Skadi is going to be significant.

We still haven't seen her in action, but the description for her power is almost ridiculously hax


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:25 PM

Actually I am a chinese so I can understand it just fine :lol:

 

Maybe I will post a summary of what happens for those that wants to know


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:36 PM

Actually I am a chinese so I can understand it just fine :lol:

 

Maybe I will post a summary of what happens for those that wants to know

 

Best not, I'm sure most readers here would wait for the English Scans bit by bit

 

But goody, someone whose caught up like me.  

Spoilers when you're totally caught up

 

Spoiler


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:17 AM

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:36 AM

Chapter 40 is out:

http://trinitybakuma...ldr-chapter-40/

 

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 04:53 AM

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:28 AM

Well, looks like  scientist guy is on board now. :D



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:23 AM

Being from there and knowing how extensively Okamoto usually researches things, I find it quite odd that he's calling Dresden the capital city of East Germany - because it wasn't, this title goes to Berlin :rolleyes: 

 

Aside from that, this was a good transitional chapter with some really valuable information given. Most importantly, Kogorou finally being convinced and ready to help Ryouta will take a huge burden of his shoulders - for now. Him saying that it will be a chance for him more than just implies that he either already has some ulterior motives or will develop them in no time.

Also, the parasites can't be killed by being stomped on, they'll need to apply more 'final' measures. Like, burning them. But, the way a seemingly dead alien came back to live and immediately tried to invade a new host reminds of a certain movie, namely The Thing from another World. The question is, if Kogorou has indeed been infected by such a short exposition or if the parasite has to invade the host entirely to take it over.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 01:27 AM

Chinese 49

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 The question is, if Kogorou has indeed been infected by such a short exposition or if the parasite has to invade the host entirely to take it over.

That's what everyone wants to know


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 01:43 AM

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:16 AM

Also, the parasites can't be killed by being stomped on, they'll need to apply more 'final' measures. Like, burning them. But, the way a seemingly dead alien came back to live and immediately tried to invade a new host reminds of a certain movie, namely The Thing from another World. The question is, if Kogorou has indeed been infected by such a short exposition or if the parasite has to invade the host entirely to take it over.

They Can't be killed by being stomped on? Nanami's alien wasn't stomped on when it came out. The only time I remember they were stomped on was the First A rank fight, and Nanami after being assumed to be dead.

And I'm thinking the Alien has to invade to take over. Else why would they bother aliens inside the person in the first place.
That doesn't mean Kogorou doesn't have any side effect though.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:03 PM

Chap 41: http://www.mangahere...brynhildr/c041/


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:30 PM

Sorry, but when I thought of German Hero for the villanous organization, I was sooo thinking Fuhrer. Like, I was thinking, "oh those nasty guys again huh?" 

 

Glad it wasn't. 

 

Anyway for that next sequence I would have answered:

 

"I DO! I DO BELIEVE IN MAGIC!!! :aww: 



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:54 AM

Chapter 41: I'm so glad Ryouta and Kogoro figured out the password in a way that is not a cop out

 

 

Here's an interesting story: The Nibelungenlied was a German epic poem that was based on the Norse epic The Volsunga Saga, which tells the tale of Sigurd/Siegfried and Brynhildr/Brunhild.

Another notable work based on both works is Der Ring des Nibelungen (The Ring of the Nibelung) by the German Richard Wagner

 

I looked all these up, and I still don't get how Brynhildr has anything to do with this manga.

 

Still, chances are high that Okamoto is theming the manga either around Volsunga or Der Ring:

 

- Grani/Grane is Siegfried's horse

- Skadi is a Norse goddess, who is not involved in any way with these tales at all

- Brynhildr is shieldmaiden, though in most mythical tellings she is also a Valkyrie who was essentially forced to become a mortal

 

In all cases, Brynhildr's own fate ends in tragedy.

Perhaps the scene in Chapter 1 is supposed to be this manga's Ragnarok?

 

One thing's more certain though, our dearly beloved Ryouta is probably our heroic Siegfried

 

 

Now that Chapter 41 is out, here's something interesting: apparently Volume 3 of Brynhildr came with a short side story.  Fortunately, the Chinese scanlated it:

 

http://manhua.178.co...xet/20199.shtml

 

It expands a bit more on Ryouta and Kazumi's "date" at Akihabara, and a little something else in German...


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:09 AM

Oh man this means we are not gonna have a happy ending :(

 

I know I shouldn't expect much happiness from the person who wrote Elfen lied But I do hope for a happy ending after all their sufferings


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:35 AM

I see..! Wait. I think the magicians could then be considered as Einherjar, the Gods would be the Aliens... which means there's something else that the Aliens are fighting

 

Ragnarok is going to be a 4 way battle between the Aliens, the Corporation, the Enemy, and the Protagonists O_O



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:10 AM

This is getting interesting. And the german hero beeing Siegfried makes a lot of sense, too, as he's about the only one universally accepted that actually has all that is required for a hero.

 

As for how Brynhildr/Brunhilde will come into play, well, in the Nibelungenlied she was the queen of Iceland and rumoured to be stronger than any man. But the king of Burgund, Gunther, wanted to marry her so bad that he asked his friend Siegfried (who, if I remember it right, possessed a ring of invisibility and a belt of change shaping) to help him win Brunhilde over. Since Siegfried himself wanted to marry Kriemhild, the sister of Gunther, despite not being royalty, he agreed and, either disguised as Gunther or invisibly helping him fight, they defeated Brunhilde three times. Not with her starting to suspect something was wrong when she dominated Gunther in bed while he easily forced her down in a brawl before. Suffice to say that she laid her eyes on Siegfried herself, who is portrayed as a handsome, muscular guy of great intellect who himself is virtually invincible.

In the end, though, she had to bow down and went with them to Burgund and at the side of Gunther became the queen of this country. Like everyone else in that story, she met her end in the most gruesome fashion after Kriemhild went crazy over Siegfrieds death. It doesn't have to do much with Ragnarok, though, as it's mostly a tale about people getting all crazy over love and going to huge lengths to either get it or take revenge on those who caused them to loose it.

 

So, given the connections between this manga and the tale, I agree that it's possible for Ryouta to be an image of Siegfried, what with him helping the girls so that he can win Neko over. But what doesn't fit - at all - is him being the last one standing over a dying Kuroha. Because, the death of Siegfried actually starts the downfall of everything. And while Kogorou might fit for Hagen von Tronje, it's still too early to give him that dastardly role. Among the girls, I think that Kazumi and Kuroha both share traits of Brunhilde and Kriemhild. Kuroha has the inhuman strength of Brunhilde, but the jealousy of Kriemhilde, while Kazumi has Brunhildes growing love for Siegfried and Kriemhildes intelligence.

 

Granted, there is way too little information on how firm Okamoto is going to base this on the original tale, so everything above regarding the association of the different characters may just be a crazy theory.

 

 

On another note, that new scientist looks interesting and may be the much needed ally Ryouta looks for within the organization. Although I found it quite funny for the driver to call her looks homely :rolleyes:


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