No, but Akainu never floated.
The only time he was shown to travel is underground. The image shown is him jumping to attack.
I think I kept saying I never meant ''float''. I used ''hover'' which I think means different. If it doesn't, then I used the word wrong but anw what I was trying to say is never ''float'' so you can forget that.
Uh huh. Yeah. That's what I meant. Any kind of traveling with upper body in the air, twisting, circling around counts. Doesn't matter if they float or jump or spring from the ground.
Synonymous means the same.
depends on context and country though. There are many so-called synonymous words but often you can always find certain meaning of theirs that technically mean different things, no matter how subtle they are (though normally in daily life language they are used in the same way) or people in different country use them differently.
I'm sure ''hover'' is different from ''float'' in a certain sense but maybe it's not the one I want to convey.
They cannot do these things ... So your point is a farce and patently untrue. Smoker is the only logia who has been shown to emerge from his element and attack in the manner that he has.
They can. Croc and Akainu did that.
I've seen them and there is no evidence that he's travelling beyond jumping.
...What? If it's simply jumping, there's no reason to turn your lower body into sand or magma. When Croc runs up the stairs in Impel Down, his legs are also sand...
Height and duration were not factors in my evidencing why your assumption is baseless.
What assumption? It's manga canon that Croc and Akainu did that. As I said, you keep repeating the ''float'' thing but I have made it clear from the first time you uttered that word that I never meant that.
"and you can imbue CoA on it" - again, proof ... ? It being 'solid' is not proof.
Why not? So what are all the weapons that have been imbued CoA? Liquid? Or Gas?
Whatever it was that you quoted and attempted to use to wrangle instability in my words.
no idea what you're talking about so just tell me. The ''Akainu can coat magma fist in Hardening'' or...?
In your words and replies. The ellipses and emoticons are the most clear cut to evidence.
I used emoticons in that post where? And what ellipses?
Smoker has not shown CoA on his smoke either yet you're asserting that as factual over a possibility. Double standards much?
Because we haven't seen anyone of worth using tonfa in this manga, should we say tonfa cannot be imbued CoA? No. Weapon can be imbued with Hardening if it's solid, just like Smoker's solidified smoke. We have precedences and alike.
But Smoke's real life deadliness is not something Smoker ever shows, even though they can help him in certain matches. Different matters.
You're doing Strawman, really.
Burning hotter wouldn't save a flame from being extinguished by magma. Magma can cut out the oxygen.
How, in the same context as Akainu vs Ace?
If "do the users show it?" is your mantra, then all that you've said is to be ignored ...
As I said, different matters.
You are contesting and refuting ...
No. It's not like I present points that are opposite to yours or said your reasoning is wrong or something. I merely explained why Smoker's fruit's deadliness is something I don't think of as anything more than a mere possibility (which is very improbable IMO). I never disagree with or reject your idea that smoke is deadly and there's a chance Smoker may be deadly but chooses not to show it. If I don't do that, it's not contest or refute.
And then you're still not telling me about the smoke's deadliness you're talking about.
Edited by Fulmine, 25 November 2014 - 06:01 AM.