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#1741 pyrogenic

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 04:26 AM

Gabi will prevent such escalation.

#1742 Krizalid

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:47 AM

So are we getting Levi vs eren?


Grab the "Marvel Civil War" meme and replace the faces with theirs.

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 09:10 AM

Zeke is a traitor, he betrayed his family & then he betraid Marley it would be absolute stupidity for Paradis to trust some one who keeps on betraying people, for all we know he might still be working with Marley, therefore the best course of action for Eren is to immediadtly use the power of the founding titan on Zeke himself the moment it's activated, we have already seen that the coordinate can brainwash someone with royal blood, so when Eren touches the Beast titan he should immediatley brainwash Zeke of all his memories since his birth and make him become his loyal dog.

but honestly I dont think Paradis needs the founding titan, if they defeat all enemy titans then Armin alone can crush Marley even if it takes him several trasformations and thus several months to do it.

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 09:31 AM

Attack on confusion



#1745 Abaroxa

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 02:59 AM

I like them questioning everything since they don't know Zeke and his girl follower true intentions. There are too many points that don't add up.
Zacaris dying was weird but so was him.

I really don't know where eren is going or what he plans to do. All o think is that the writers might be shooting themselves with this recent plot progressions.

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 06:23 AM

Zeke is a traitor, he betrayed his family & then he betraid Marley it would be absolute stupidity for Paradis to trust some one who keeps on betraying people, for all we know he might still be working with Marley, therefore the best course of action for Eren is to immediadtly use the power of the founding titan on Zeke himself the moment it's activated, we have already seen that the coordinate can brainwash someone with royal blood, so when Eren touches the Beast titan he should immediatley brainwash Zeke of all his memories since his birth and make him become his loyal dog.

but honestly I dont think Paradis needs the founding titan, if they defeat all enemy titans then Armin alone can crush Marley even if it takes him several trasformations and thus several months to do it.

 

I agree, Zeke is definitely too far gone, there's no way he can be trusted.
The operation on Marley was an elaborate plan to get Eren on his side and simultaneously turn the whole world against Eldia.
Eren did get the hammer Titan but Eren doesn't equal Eldia. We still don't know anything about the memories of the founding titan,
however l can't help but think that Eren is deliberately playing Zeke's game. And you said he probably plans to make Zeke his subject.
I disagree though on Armin being enough to deal with Marley. After all they're against the world and the technology is catching up to the power of Titans.
And there's also 3 Titans on Marley's side. Annie certainly can't be trusted.

Anyway, the appearance of the bagon(?) titan of Marley confirms for me that Zeke is really a double agent. 
I really miss Erwin's character, he was a person who had the ability to figure things out and his loss was indeed great. (Usually though we weren't initiallly aware he had a plan)
There may have been a different chain of events had him being chosen to be kept alive. Hanji and Armin didn't manage to reach his strategic thinking sadly. 
To her defence though, Hanji seems to have realised what's really going on but she's definitely late to reach to a conclusion.

Armin too will probably play an important role in the battles to come. They certainly failed to prevent all this mess with Zacharis's death and the gradual loss of support to the military.

 

In my opinion Eren VS Levi is not happening because it would be a curbstomp (as much as i respect Levi, he is a beast but come on).
He has the abilities of 3 Titans at the moment and he seems like a pretty unstoppable force.
I don't see anyone defeating him without help from Titans. Eren couldn't defeat alone the Hammer Titan even though he had the element of surprise and multiple allies.
 


Spoiler Poor Hiruzen
 

#1747 Baks

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 02:19 PM

Just read the chapter, I am wondering why Eren is so disillusioned and distrustful of the military for. Going so far as to openly rebel against them and even siding with terrorists.

Yeah, I am calling those guys terrorists - since they blew up Zackly with explosives in that chair apparently.

Not sure why people are willing to trust Zeke for. Like its already been mentioned, the guy is shady as hell.


Good to see Hitch in the series again, her comments about Armin touching Annie's crystallized form and his reaction to them was funny. XD

Finally how the hell did Pieck get onto Paradis Island? I am guessing that her purpose their is to be an undercover scout or spy for Market's forthcoming invasion force.

#1748 Gobi Todic

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Posted 12 October 2018 - 02:11 PM

I can't decide if Eren has some Snape-level secret plan or if he is turning more and more into Sasuke, while Misaka/Sakura can't help still believing in him and won't kill him when if it has to come down to it.



#1749 masterbio

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Posted Yesterday, 04:41 PM

To be """"""fair""""", the military was planning on having Eren eaten. It's not an excuse to having the higher up killed, but it does give Eren a solid motive to do so.

 

Who is on who's side is really hard to say right now. I really want Eren to be more than just a pawn for the military, but I don't want him to turn into Sasuke this late in the manga.

Regarding Zeke, I don't know, I still remember his first appearance and the way he was so determined to kill the exploration party that found him in ape-mode when he was alone. But we haven't seen enough of the character to know how many double crossings is he planning.

But it did cross my mind that Zeke planned all this to reach the top brass of the eldyian army for example



#1750 Krizalid

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Posted Today, 07:04 AM

Do we fully know why things turned out this way?

AFAIK first came the Marleyans & Zeke supporters. They spoke to Eren secretly and forged the Marley Operation plan. On this plan Eren acted on his own, so Island Military had to follow him to Marley. Even though things turned okay, this caused Military & Survey Corps to doubt/jail Eren and they started planning against him. In response, events of this chapter happened.

 

But why did Eren stray away from the military in the first place? I will have to reread to understand this I think. There is no reason they couldnt find common sense between pro-Zeke marleyans and Islanders.

 

I also dont know why Hanji & Scouting Legion aren't huge big deals in the military and are treated like ordinary officers. They got you almost half of your fields back AND REVEALED THE TRUTHS ABOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD.



#1751 masterbio

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Posted Today, 01:40 PM

Do we fully know why things turned out this way?

AFAIK first came the Marleyans & Zeke supporters. They spoke to Eren secretly and forged the Marley Operation plan. On this plan Eren acted on his own, so Island Military had to follow him to Marley. Even though things turned okay, this caused Military & Survey Corps to doubt/jail Eren and they started planning against him. In response, events of this chapter happened.

 

But why did Eren stray away from the military in the first place? I will have to reread to understand this I think. There is no reason they couldnt find common sense between pro-Zeke marleyans and Islanders.

 

I also dont know why Hanji & Scouting Legion aren't huge big deals in the military and are treated like ordinary officers. They got you almost half of your fields back AND REVEALED THE TRUTHS ABOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD.

The part about Eren I think is because he felt that the island military weren't moving fast enough, OR, or, Zeke and that girl planned his brainwashing so he would destroy Marleyn military bosses and this somehow is involved with Zeke's own motivations and agenda.

 

The second point, yeah, I get it. My main disappointment is Armin. After a TS I was expecting him to be a leader, like Erwin (I mean, wasn't Armin basically supposed to substitute Erwin as the strategist???), but now he's a regular fodder...






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