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#621 Athos

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Posted 03 April 2018 - 11:22 AM

Not much to say about the ending. It was just an ordinary fight sequence after another without any kind of stakes. I actually give endings a lot of importance when I rate a series, and this was honestly pretty bad, compared to the rest of the season, and even the previous season. Hell, I think I would've liked it more if it had ended last week with a cliffhanger.


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Posted 03 April 2018 - 02:54 PM

Well, it's not a stand-alone so it's supposed to be like this and continues in season 3 if there is one (given the two new characters at the end I guess it's possible. Edit: well, it's confirmed). What happened this week we already know last week. Momon beats Demiurge and gains fame. Done. The bad things about this episode lie in different areas for me: Momon vs Jadalbaoh and the art.

-The fight's choreography is really meh. Hell, Evileye vs Yuri and Delta is actually much better.

 

-And by art I mean the faces of the characters are terribly drawn in many instances and quite obvious (Normally you can sort of hide them by fast movement so audiences would not notice (though decent eyes would detect anw) but here they have these frames in still or talking). Maybe Overlord is already famous so they feel they can take a breath at the last minute or just rushed schedule? Madhouse does have another series in the same season which is A Place Further Than Universe so maybe they focus more on that original show...

 

With season 3 I guess we will finish vol 9-10?


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#623 Ace1225

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Posted 17 May 2018 - 01:54 PM

Watched this last month and i'm honestly mad that no one either here or anywhere else recommended this series to me. It's fantastic. THIS is what an anime featuring a character stuck in a video game style world should be. This blows any other anime with this premise out of the water. One thing that had me hooked from the jump is how little is known about what's going on. It seems like a small issue (Whereas something like SAO made the reason that the character was stuck in the game a major plot point), but it really works to the series benefit. Our "hero" thinks about it every now and again, but the actual reveal to it doesn't even happen near him for him to learn about it. It's through a side character who shows up like twice. Instead, we get to really focus on the uniqueness of the situation, while the "rules" of the New World are properly fleshed out and explained to us, as are the ways in which the previous video game run. I feel like this series really uses the premise to its full potential due to doing away with all of the human characters that SAO had and instead having one human from the real world (Stuck in a monster's body however) surrounded by NPC's who are then given there own personalities. After that, all the other characters are basically just characters in a video game (I know the New World isn't technically a video game, but i'm saying that it may as well be for the situation). This allows us to focus more on the "game" and less on the plight of the trapped character, who instead just gets involved, sets out learning about the world and teaching us more about it, and eventually decides to conquer it. To me, this is more like what the average gamer would do were he/she in this situation.

 

I can't wait for Season 3, because the first 2 aren't nearly enough to satisfy me. Even the fights that are one-sided can still be pretty interesting to watch, such as the Cocytus vs the Lizardmen.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:31 PM

Wait... someone actually mentioned why he got caught in a different world? Either I completely missed it, or it has been far too long. since season 1. Probably both.

 

I'll be honest. I don't share this hatred of SAO. I actually loved episode 1 of that series a lot. If I don't like it now, it's because it quickly devolved into harem shenanigans, and what was originally a short story with a few flaws became some sort of sappy power fantasy. Of course, that was just season 1... I don't know what became of it afterwards.

 

As for other series with the same premise... I liked Log Horizon quite a bit. Probably more than Overlord overall. It just feels like a lot more thought was put into it. Grimgar was also pretty fun, although the anime was easily better than the novels. I like Overlord, I really do... but I think it's only because it feels like it's always building up to something more interesting that what it actually is. It's difficult to explain. I like the dialogue a lot, though.


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Posted 17 May 2018 - 04:40 PM

Wait... someone actually mentioned why he got caught in a different world? Either I completely missed it, or it has been far too long. since season 1. Probably both.

 

I'll be honest. I don't share this hatred of SAO. I actually loved episode 1 of that series a lot. If I don't like it now, it's because it quickly devolved into harem shenanigans, and what was originally a short story with a few flaws became some sort of sappy power fantasy. Of course, that was just season 1... I don't know what became of it afterwards.

 

As for other series with the same premise... I liked Log Horizon quite a bit. Probably more than Overlord overall. It just feels like a lot more thought was put into it. Grimgar was also pretty fun, although the anime was easily better than the novels. I like Overlord, I really do... but I think it's only because it feels like it's always building up to something more interesting that what it actually is. It's difficult to explain. I like the dialogue a lot, though.

Unlike most people I hated SAO because of the way the LN was written. So, i saw the first episode of SAO and fell in love with the idea and went online to read the novel. This is how the author wrote SAO. In Volume 1. We get the 1st floor, 20nd floor, the last floor they did and it was over. SAO was over in the first volume everything that happen in between was written after.

 

The reason overlord was trap was because he stay in the game after the countdown was over.


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 05:13 AM

so I was pretty late in watching this anime, I'm glad I droped this shit, Overlord has managed to be in my top 20 list of the shitiest animes, my main issue with this crap of anime is that it presents the bad guy as the protagonist while the good guys are made to be the antagonists, watching an anime in which some one like Ainz is the protagonist is like watching a Naruto anime in which Orochimaru is made to be the protagonist while Naruto & co are the antagonist & in almost every single episode Orichimaru crushes & dominates most of the other villages including Naruto & all his comrades, it's so bad it almost looks like a prank from the author.

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 08:02 AM

So its shit because it doesn't follow the same narrative of most other stories? Its fair if you don't like it but i think its unfair to be so judgmental because of the nature of the protagonist. Seriouslly what were you expecting of a series starring a Undead Overlord with Demons and other monster as subordinate.

 

Personally i think its enjoyable to see the perspective of the "villain". I'm actually quite enjoying the series for the power fantasy aspect to be an Evil Overlord. Makes it stand out from the boring shit from the genre like SAO.



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Posted 19 September 2018 - 03:46 PM

That sounds like a very (traumatic) personal and subjective issue instead of a narrative problem because god forbid a work of fiction has a anti-hero/villain as a protag/main focus of the story less your virgin eyes becomes tainted from mustache-twirling villainy. 



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Posted 19 September 2018 - 09:31 PM

I forget. What was the first chaotic evil thing the protagonist does again?

 

I ask because although it was amusing to watch, I think this season is the first time I remember him crossing the event horizon. It made me question even more why they made the stupid decision of making his inner monologue voice that of a boring teenager.


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Posted 19 September 2018 - 11:04 PM

I forget. What was the first chaotic evil thing the protagonist does again?

 

I ask because although it was amusing to watch, I think this season is the first time I remember him crossing the event horizon. It made me question even more why they made the stupid decision of making his inner monologue voice that of a boring teenager.

It depends. What about the lizard people. He came in and kill a bunch of them for no reason.

 

It was mostly his people that do all of the bad stuff.


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Posted 20 September 2018 - 12:53 AM

so I was pretty late in watching this anime, I'm glad I droped this shit, Overlord has managed to be in my top 20 list of the shitiest animes, my main issue with this crap of anime is that it presents the bad guy as the protagonist while the good guys are made to be the antagonists, watching an anime in which some one like Ainz is the protagonist is like watching a Naruto anime in which Orochimaru is made to be the protagonist while Naruto & co are the antagonist & in almost every single episode Orichimaru crushes & dominates most of the other villages including Naruto & all his comrades, it's so bad it almost looks like a prank from the author.

Protagonist =/= hero and antagonist =/= villain.

 

Ever read/watch Death Note?

 

Besides, Ainz has not done that many evil things so far in the anime compared to his moral stuffs...and it's a fucking videogame to him...


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Posted 20 September 2018 - 04:18 AM

Protagonist =/= hero and antagonist =/= villain.

 

Ever read/watch Death Note?

 

Besides, Ainz has not done that many evil things so far in the anime compared to his moral stuffs...and it's a fucking videogame to him...

i think it is more that is he is scary as hell. His guild is a bunch of monsters that like skinning people alive. 

 

How would you act around them?


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Posted 22 September 2018 - 06:04 AM

Protagonist =/= hero and antagonist =/= villain.

Ever read/watch Death Note?

Besides, Ainz has not done that many evil things so far in the anime compared to his moral stuffs...and it's a fucking videogame to him...


I guess I should have put the word IMO in my first post, of course I know that being a protagonist doesn't equal being a hero, however out of the 90 plus animes that I watched non have a villian as a protagonist, because I don't like watching dozens of episodes only for the ending to be happy for the villians.
we are not yet sure wether he is still in the video game world or did the game actually become real due to real magic, if it's the latter then it's not a game any more.

god forbid a work of fiction has a anti-hero/villain as a protag/main focus of the story less your virgin eyes becomes tainted from mustache-twirling villainy.

I see that watching anime has made you into a tough guy, good for you.

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Posted 22 September 2018 - 06:23 AM


we are not yet sure wether he is still in the video game world or did the game actually become real due to real magic, if it's the latter then it's not a game any more.

Why ignore the last two words?

 

 


I see that watching anime has made you into a tough guy, good for you.

You just don't know the difference between bad and ''I don't like it'' LOL


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Posted 22 September 2018 - 06:51 AM

Why ignore the last two words?



You just don't know the difference between bad and ''I don't like it'' LOL

Ainz himself (at the beinnging) mentions that the game world felt real, so most likely he himself isn't sure wether it's still a game or not, speaking of ingoring words I see that you ignored my first verse (or did my edit come in while you were typing & didn't display?), If I say "IMO it's in my top 20 shities anime" it esentially means "I don't like it".

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Posted 22 September 2018 - 07:00 AM


Ainz himself (at the beinnging) mentions that the game world felt real, so most likely he himself isn't sure wether it's still a game or not

Yeah, he doesn't know for sure plus his emotions are choked. That's the point.

 

 


I guess I should have put the word IMO in my first post, of course I know that being a protagonist doesn't equal being a hero, however out of the 90 plus animes that I watched non have a villian as a protagonist, because I don't like watching dozens of episodes only for the ending to be happy for the villians.

And who said protagonist would end up being happy or they can't change? O__O


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Posted 22 September 2018 - 07:19 AM

And who said protagonist would end up being happy or they can't change? O__O

Well of course we don't know what will happen, in the end for instance Ains might have to face a bigger evil or something, how ever I prefer not to take my chances.

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 12:53 AM

Well of course we don't know what will happen, in the end for instance Ains might have to face a bigger evil or something, how ever I prefer not to take my chances.

yeah you should quit. He is the villain through and through.


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Posted 23 September 2018 - 05:59 AM

I see that watching anime has made you into a tough guy, good for you.

Nice response, anyway...

 

I guess I should have put the word IMO in my first post, of course I know that being a protagonist doesn't equal being a hero, however out of the 90 plus animes that I watched non have a villian as a protagonist, because I don't like watching dozens of episodes only for the ending to be happy for the villians.

There's quite a few anime/manga with protagonists like that, movies/TV as well. And as fulmine already said, who says they will have a happy ending? Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. But in the case that they do get one then so what? Does that automatically make a series "shit" because of that? You have to evaluate the rest of the story as a whole before we can determine whether something is good or not. If the premise and characters are interesting then I will gladly check it out regardless of who's bad/good because that's just a small factor in the overall package of a particular story and it shouldn't really affect it all that much if they are bad unless it turns to shit in the end or makes the story boring because of said choice to make them that way.

So yes, you can personally not like stories with villains as the main protagonist since they're not your thing, fine, but to say "it's in my top 20 shities anime" because of a narrative choice and not because of the plot/characters/writing or whatever is pretty silly to say the least even if it is "your opinion". Even more so since the first half of S2 or 
arguably S1 should have been a clear indicator that this was a series you should be staying away from. I don't read/watch yaoi series but I'm not gonna trash them just because it's not for me lol


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Posted 23 September 2018 - 10:24 AM

Well of course we don't know what will happen, in the end for instance Ains might have to face a bigger evil or something, how ever I prefer not to take my chances.

Okay. Btw if calling something shittiest+bad+crap is essentially just your saying ''I don't like it'' then exactly what do you normally say when you really mean something is shit and crap and bad?


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