Is drastically limiting access for civilians an extreme option though?
Proper access to firearms for law abiding citizens is a natural right secured by the constitution and a safeguard against tyranny.
It's doable and has been done without unintended side-effects.
I don't think you have a full grasp on American gun culture, civil religion, and the constitution (not trying to sound rude here, btw).
What you seem to be leaning towards is going all Europe on American gun ownership. That's just impossible and illegal, it would also incite civil upheaval. This isn't Europe and doesn't want to be.
You have to stop thinking like a European if you're gonna talk effective gun control in America. I know you mean well, but your lot in America actual fuels the mess that is the gun debate. Hardline, leftist anti-gun types only feed the NRA and other staunch, anti-gun control groups -- strengthens them. I remember a recent Frontline documentary reaffirming this odd relationship. It ruins the dialogue.
(And a consitution, like any other law, should be changeable... anyway)
I've already said changes are needed.
However, they must be pragmatic, well reasoned, and constitutionally sound.
We both want similar things, just disagree on how to get there. America will always have more gun crimes than Europe, though it's worth noting that the vast majority of gun crime victims are criminals/former criminals.
that wasn't my point. The point i was trying to make was that There are less people with guns now even if the number of guns out there is more.
My bad for not being clear.
So you were just stating facts?
Never mind then.
Edited by Peleihno, 24 August 2015 - 08:42 PM.