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#401 Blackody

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 04:26 PM

@Insane Soul. Could he be lying though? Let's say it's revealed he has a second prime eye.
Bayon clearly shouldn't have went there alone. He seemed very calculative but surprisingly he fell right into their trap. I guess his arrogance got the better of him. I would also like to see what happened to the other character, the supposedly #2 of the group. It'd be a shame if Bayon offscreeened him like that :/.
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Posted 18 April 2018 - 05:08 PM

@Insane Soul. Could he be lying though? Let's say it's revealed he has a second prime eye.
 

It was the truth, because of his intel, Lucas figured out the weakness of the demons and told the rest of the kids. Given how this happened before Lewis outplayed the Original group of Lucas,  the Nameless guy of the Vault knew the weakness of the demons as well, before he made the escape Lucas told him about it.

 

That Lewis possesses a backup plan for the Vital eye is another thing...but it ruins the purpose of "Making even the hunt' if it doesn't affect him.


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Posted 19 April 2018 - 08:53 AM

Chapter 83
 
Interesting that Minerva designed additonal secret entrances to the underground. But I'm going to guess that none of them leads into the true Goldy Pond, or else the Door under the windmill would be pointless.
 
If the Grand Valley crew came up with this plan on the (incorrect) assumption that Goldy Pond was originally created by the demons, then they would likewise expect that the hidden entrances are no secret to the demons.
So yeah, they would fully expect Bayon to follow them down the tunnel.
 
@Blackody To be fair, it seemed less about arrogance and more out of concern. It was implied that Peter left out a lot of details when he handed Goldy Pond into Bayon's custody, so learning about these tunnels after so many years must've unnerved Bayon. As the landlord, he had to get to the bottom of this, literally.
 
Nonetheless, this discovery was bound to make Bayon believe he outsmarted the kids. Along with the multiple scent of the remaining children.
 
But can someone explain to me how Lucas and co. managed to ambush Bayon even after he sensed them?
 
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I'm going to guess that while they managed to break Bayon's mask, killing him will remain tricky.
 
Perhaps we're going to go for a chapter in which a double kill of Bayon and Nous will happen back to back? And cover fire for Emma will show up in the last second?
 
And yeah, we still don't fully know what had happened during the original ambush on Bayon, or why the team hasn't been annihilated already.
 
Lastly, definitely enjoying Lewis so far.

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 09:48 AM



But can someone explain to me how Lucas and co. managed to ambush Bayon even after he sensed them?

1) All Bayon did was smell them. Which is expected if he goes into their base, of course he would smell the humans. Especially if sent last a while even after a person is gone

Considering he was following the kids to find Lucas, smelling Lucas is expected.

Smelling the kids right next to him is not enough time to react. 

 

2) You often hear of the cases where A trails B, A assume B doesn't know, B leads A into a trap.

Same case here. 


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 12:18 PM

New chapter: https://readms.net/r...land/084/5035/1

 

 

Do all Demons have six fingers? This is the first time I noticed it.



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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:23 PM

Looks like we got an anime boys and girls


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 10:17 PM

What I find interesting of this manga, lately this arc is that, despite them being demons, and clearly showing traits fitting them in the humans and our perspective, the author still develops a 'humanistic side' for them. 



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Posted 24 April 2018 - 07:19 AM

Chapter 84

 

So the veterans' latest assumption was that the Demons didn't know about the tunnels, huh? Possibly a result of Minerva's intentions for Goldy Pond revealed.

 

You have to hand it to the kids: being able to go for an all or nothing gamble using the tunnels themselves.

 

Do all Demons have six fingers? This is the first time I noticed it.

Not all of them. Lewis for example has 2 fingers and a thumb

 

A Desire to Hunt

What I find interesting of this manga, lately this arc is that, despite them being demons, and clearly showing traits fitting them in the humans and our perspective, the author still develops a 'humanistic side' for them. 

Not sure I follow on what you mean by "humanistic side". Care to elaborate?

 

I mean, inhuman creatures with personality and behaviour that echoes those of humans has been nothing new in the context of fiction, so I assume you mean something else.

 

But I am curious about something: does anybody in this thread hunt or consume wild game? Is it that much of a thrill to consume "something that once lived"?

 

http://www.mangahere...nd/c084/12.html

For those curious, the [Demon Glyphs] bit here on this page is actually referring to the same indecipherable text as before, which possibly refers to the leader of the Demons.

http://www.mangahere...nd/c007/19.html

 

So Demons can live for over 1000 years, huh? Just how long is their lifespan?

From Bayon's behaviour, I take it that Sung-Joo is also from the same era, what with his desire to eat and hunt also. Moreso the former for him though.

On the other hand, since it sounds as though Musica had really never eaten human meat before, it makes me wonder the following:

  1. When was she born? (At some point less than 1000 years, post Promise, but I want a more exact time frame)
  2. How do more Demons come to be?
  3. If consuming humans isn't a requirement to become one of the smart ones, then what is?

Battlefield Status

The situation of the operation is as follows:

 

Vs Lewis: (1)
Emma (active)
 
Vs Bayon: (6)
Lucas (active)
Oliver (incapacitated)
Nigel (active)
Gillian (incapacitated)
Zack (low chance of survival)
Pepe (active, treating Gillian)
 
Vs Nous: (4)
Sandy (active?)
Sonia (active?)
Paula (active?)
Violet (active?)
 
That is, of the 10 allies within the hunting grounds, 3 are active, 3 are unable to battle (to say the least), and 4 are status unknown. 2 opponents left.
Furthermore, 3 out of 5 mask breaking bullets have served their purpose without fail, with the remaining 2 still reserved for Lewis as intended.
Of the 3 special rifles, 1 is accounted for with the Bayon team, while the other 2 are still with the Nous team, status uncertain.
 
As pessimistic as I am for the kids in the grounds, I do want as many of them to survive as possible.

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Posted 03 May 2018 - 03:36 AM

@gamria I'm very surprised you didn't already post your thoughts about chapter 85. Also, the battlefield status changed a lot.
So, Nous and Nouma proved to be very dangerous since they were a pair. Nous anihilated the entire group that was sent to kill them and so far has cause most casualties.
Bayon too caused critical damage by taking out of commision the strongest fighters of Goldypond that had important for the final battle with Lewis.

I can't wait for Lucas' and the unnamed man's reunion. Although if we consider the usual tropes, one of them won't make it (or Lucas will stay behind due to his condition). 


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Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:47 AM

@Blackody Hey now, I'm a working man, can't linger on the forum all the time. The chapter was released while I was busy anyway.
 
 
Chapter 85
 
Honestly, I really never expected the Nous/Nouma side to outlast Bayon's group.
Well, failing to eliminate both of them together before rage mode ensued led to this predicament.
 
I have mixed feelings about Ray and Nameless' arrival this chapter. On one hand, had they appeared when it was time for the final confrontation with Lewis, chances are that confrontation's success rate would be higher.
On the other hand, their appearance while a strengthened Nous is still active ... while the former's chances are lessened (going by conventional thought), this guarantees that their presence garners some form of success first.
 
Whatever the case, it's welcoming to see them again
 
Battlefield Status
 
Vs Lewis (1)
Emma (active)
 
Vs Nous (6)
Sandy (incapacitated)
Sonia (incapacitated)
Paula (incapacitated)
Violet (active)
Ray (active)
Nameless (active)
 
Others (6)
Lucas (active, on medical duty)
Oliver (incapacitated)
Zack (incapacitated)
Gillian (incapacitated)
Nigel (active, en route to Emma)
Pepe (active, weakened, en route to Zack)
 
So if we go with the assumption that everyone who can still fight remains so, barring Lucas who has to remain at HQ, we have 6 combatants left to face off against Lewis.
 
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I am curious though: even if all the Grand Valley kids stayed in fighting shape for the showdown with Lewis, what would the plan be?
 
Can the plan still be executed with just 6 fighters?
 
And what's the emergency plan that Lucas had instructed Nigel to prepare for? It's not a kamikaze attack, is it?

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Posted 03 May 2018 - 07:55 PM

This is the moment I have been waiting for!

 

The struggle of their hopes!


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Posted 04 May 2018 - 05:41 AM

This is the moment I have been waiting for!

 

The struggle of their hopes!

On that note, while Lucas' internal thoughts this chapter may seem like filler, I personally welcome them.
 
After all, what made us all fall in love with this manga is how those on the human side are trying to outsmart and out-think the adversary in the hopes of escaping their predicaments. Lucas' thoughts show that even if the predicament this time is more confrontational and action-heavy, this intellectual essence is here to stay.
 
The uncertainty is still there, the desperation is still there, and their path towards hope is still very much a struggle.

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Posted 12 May 2018 - 01:42 AM

http://mangaseeonlin...chapter-86.html

As a reminder, mister does not know of the base, Lucas found it after he left.

Also, RIP Emma. Not sire what the they can do about him since Emma can't react

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:13 AM

Chapter 86

 

Good job Nameless. Sniping the supposedly unsnip-pable target in a split second.

 

We cannot count on him, Ray and Violet to rescue Emma though. Our only hope is Nigel making it in time, who's the only one with the special rifle accounted for.

 

Given that Lewis has not been shown with a preferred weapon of choice at all, I had assumed that he was going to hunt bare-handed, which equates to strong physical abilities. But my goodness he is fast.

With only 5 active fighters at max, how are they going to kill him?

 

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Some interesting facts from Volume 8:

 

* In contrast to Grace Field where livestock are shipped out at 12 years old at latest, Glory Bell's maximum is 15 years old. Which certainly explains why the Glory Bell escape party appear older than Emma's party

 

* Incidentally, here are the ages of the Grand Valley crew:

 

Oliver: 17
Sonia: 17
Zack: 18
Sandy: 17
Paula: 17
Nigel: 16
Pepe: 16
Gillian: 15
Violet: 13

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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:23 PM

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 01:56 PM

I think we can see now why he doesn't use any weapon

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 06:57 AM

Chapter 87

 

A comment on Baidu about this chapter feels very fitting: "So we're actually up against Korosensei"
 
Since this operation started, I had felt that the kids' methods of exterminating the demons had felt more akin to assassinations rather than battles.
 
But this chapter? Between the overkill bullet rain trap, Lewis' speed feat and the ending editor note calling him a Shinigami, this manga is just asking for more comparisons with Assassination Classroom.
 
So how are the kids going to deal with a Korosensei that actually fights back? They'll need a pit fall at least.
 
Also, where did Adam go? He's not going to partake the battle against Lewis, is he?
 
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I did a bit of thinking on 2 matters of concern:
 
1. Ideally, once all 5 demons were defeated, everyone in Goldy Pond will evacuate it.
But at this point, with 6 of the fighters injured and possibly more to come, even if the operation is a success, they won't be able to leave immediately. They need to be in steady condition before they can travel.
 
I worry that this delay will result in demons from Bayon's estate coming into the hunting grounds to oppose them, leading to further battles, while the humans' side is low on warpower.
 
2. Whether Lucas and/or Nameless will perish in this operation. My current thought: at least one will live, out of necessity.
 
With Nameless' knowledge, the humans can travel to the Safe House via the longer, safer route. Even so, between Emma, Ray, Nigel, Pepe, Violet and Adam, I really don't think these 6 are enough to safeguard the entire company. 
They're going to need one of the adults' help, during the escort, and later at the Safe House while Emma and Ray search for Norman (based on Adam's murmuring of his number).
 
Plus, they're the only outsiders left with connections to Glory Bell. If we lose both of them, neither those from Grace Field or Grand Valley will really care about the livestock stuck in there.
 
If only one gets to live ... I don't know. While Lucas has difficulty moving and is one arm short, Nameless might just see sacrificing himself as a form of redemption for his remaining family.

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 08:46 AM


Also, where did Adam go? He's not going to partake the battle against Lewis, is he?

Well the previous guy leaving to help Emma, he did tell Adam to do something. 



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Posted 22 May 2018 - 05:45 PM

Anime adaptation for Neverland is officially announced now:

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Posted 24 May 2018 - 07:14 AM

It is announced that Neverland anime going to air on January of 2019 in Noitmania's time slot.






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