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#1241 captain kidd

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 02:00 PM

Wow there...... 2 admiral level guys. Lets not over sell the old lady....

Also jack didnt so much stop the torture, he left the torture to his crew and he went to get dd, seems like a reasonable action. Espically when you consider the fact that jack and co were surprsed when they saw how much fire power was escorting DD, at most maybe jack thought fuji was there, and just knowing how kiadou's crew is he cant turn around he would look scared.
Well smile are said to have downsides. He is probably stronger then 2 yesrs ago but he clearly isnt pk level yet, which i assume is his goal.

Wow there, monet said dd wanted to be pk. DD said to bellamy he doesnt care if he is a pirate as long as he can cause chaos. So if we split the difference, maybe dd wants to be the chaos king?

Ya thats a good point his crew sure looks worse for wear. And for some reason dd wanted to keep waiting for law to return.... dd probably just wanted more money to build a larger military force. Maybe. If that was the case you would figure he would of given the fire fruit to.....vergo... or dellinger.


What are you refering to? The time when dd asks if assassins are already in ID? I will assume the wg isnt sending killer or drake.... that would mean dd is 100% wrong. Assassins are not in ID. So you think DD's incorrect claim is correct for unrelated reasons?
I cant even think of an anology for how bad that reasoning is.......its like.... if i were to say "my dog will kill me in my sleep because i didnt give him enough treats" then you theorize i will be killed by a wolf breaking into my house. They are losely connected by the fact both situations involve dogs.

Dd is making a prediction that based on the knolwedge he has the cd will send assassins to kill him. And based off that possibly incorrect prediction you are theorizing kiadou sent drake/killer to free dd for a promise he may or may not of made?

Or am i missing something, was there a news paper talking about an id break in?
 
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Posted 02 October 2018 - 06:00 PM

My theory is that the assassins were not hired by kaido or the cd. They were secret agents of DD there to rescue him.
Maybe DD planned ahead to the day he would have gotten arrested.
DD calling them assassins might be oda misdirecting us.
I always thought that keep seeing a defeated enemy was odd. Specially since he, DD, is the only antagonist in 6 to be shown doing a journey to ID.

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Posted 03 October 2018 - 01:35 AM

It was stated clearly by Kaidou he just wanted a crew full of DF users. May be his idead of coolness LOL

 

Of course he could be secretly a chessmaster LOL


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Posted 04 October 2018 - 10:00 AM

My theory is that the assassins were not hired by kaido or the cd. They were secret agents of DD there to rescue him.
Maybe DD planned ahead to the day he would have gotten arrested.
DD calling them assassins might be oda misdirecting us.
I always thought that keep seeing a defeated enemy was odd. Specially since he, DD, is the only antagonist in 6 to be shown doing a journey to ID.


Well we have no confirmation there are assassins, that was just dd speculating that the cd would send assassins because he knows too much.
So if you dont believe the cd sent assassins after dd then his whole statement is wrong. So your theory is still there but you cant ue dd's statement to suport it.


As for why we have seen defeated dd so much, well frankly i think it is because oda likes dd. In the wb war we got to see dd give a whole speach on who ever wins and loses is justice, lol what? That doesnt even make any sense, i think all fans thought ace would be rescued and status quo wouldnt be disturbed.... wb pirates werent going to save ace then go on to be justice..... but i digress, oda has always given dd special treatment. Look at dd, he has an awesome fruit, he was defeated in a way that leaves it possible he is still stronger then dog tooth.... he has a crazy strong crew.
 
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Posted 04 October 2018 - 11:00 AM

Well we have no confirmation there are assassins, that was just dd speculating that the cd would send assassins because he knows too much.
So if you dont believe the cd sent assassins after dd then his whole statement is wrong. So your theory is still there but you cant ue dd's statement to suport it.

As to why would DD lie about the assassins?
Going into HxH mode you increase your chances of success with this little lie. 1:CD sit on top of the WG, which sits on top of whoever leads ID and because the CD have resources to keep sending assassin after assassin.
2. Because of no.1, letting DD be killed would acceptable.
3. Taking the opportunity of ID officers looking away they released DD and set him free.



As for why we have seen defeated dd so much, well frankly i think it is because oda likes dd. In the wb war we got to see dd give a whole speach on who ever wins and loses is justice, lol what? That doesnt even make any sense, i think all fans thought ace would be rescued and status quo wouldnt be disturbed.... wb pirates werent going to save ace then go on to be justice..... but i digress, oda has always given dd special treatment. Look at dd, he has an awesome fruit, he was defeated in a way that leaves it possible he is still stronger then dog tooth.... he has a crazy strong crew.

Agree with everything.
Well, not everything. The speech made a lot of sense to me. WG seems to be a great example of that. He himself proved that with what he did with Dressrosa.




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Posted 04 October 2018 - 11:19 AM

I am thinking the Gomu's fruit's Awakening would not be turning things into rubber. For one I think the image of Luffy being a brawler is too deep Oda wouldn't want to turn him into long-range fighters all of a sudden. Second at best Luffy could make giant rubber robot or a robot suit to wear and have the usual ''so cool'' gag scene with Usopp and Chopper but other than that having more rubber do little for him.

 

I proposed vulcanization and I still think it's a good idea (well, fantasy vulcanization).

 

But another new idea is his Awakening would be...improving rubber quality. What I mean is his rubber body would pack more ''DF power'' and he would be able to use all the strength + deal damage he could in G2-3-4 without the need to transform.


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 11:28 AM

With this new time time fruit I have to ask myself something.
Is there someone in the current timeline that is from the past? Is there someone who just seems out of place?
Yes, Fuji, shanks and buggy. They all always seemed odd to me. Why would roger recruit two kids when he was in his last and most dangerous trip to raftel. He was a pirate for 10 or 20 years and only by the end does he decide to recruit kids..
Fuji also looks odd but I have no theory on why other than he is weird.

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 11:51 AM


Why would roger recruit two kids when he was in his last and most dangerous trip to raftel. He was a pirate for 10 or 20 years and only by the end does he decide to recruit kids..

There is no evidence that was his last trip given what Inuarashi said about resetting his journey after arriving at the last island of New World. Rayleigh also looked different when he scolded Shanks and Buggy from when they fought in Ed War and Roger looked like he was in Ed War when they came to Fishmen Island. And it's questionable whether he knew exactly how dangerous Raftel would be before he went there. Plus who said his crew didn't have kids before? Since when did you know his full crew before ''by the end''?

 

Finally, it's nothing weird. Every huge crew (as in a full-fledged shipcrew and not family-sized like SHs or even Heart pirates) can have some fodders. WB's main crew had like 1600 guys for good sake. What's not obvious about a few novices?


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 02:55 AM

Never really saw roger pirates as a regular crew. Saw then as the SHs, a family sized crew.
The orojackson seems to be slightly bigger than sunny (my perception) so it probably only accommodates two dozens of people.
The edd war was right before raftel. Or so I was led to believe.
It might not make a lot of sense but the deal is that the time time fruit opened new possibilities and by exploring it the best choice for this scenario would be buggy and shanks.

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 06:19 AM


Never really saw roger pirates as a regular crew. Saw then as the SHs, a family sized crew.
The orojackson seems to be slightly bigger than sunny (my perception) so it probably only accommodates two dozens of people.

We have seen glimpse of his crew and clearly they are a lot with fodder-looking people (as far as one ship can take)

 

Not that different from other Supernova, really.

 

 


The edd war was right before raftel. Or so I was led to believe.

2 years prior.


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 08:21 AM

2 years prior.

Hmm.. I was wrong then.

Not that different from other Supernova, really.

Thank you for mentioning the supernovas.
Apart from Kidd, law and Luffy, the supernovas are nothing but a crew with a strong captain and a bunch of fodders that match a themed dressing code.
Capone crew was a clear example of that. They were all weak. Luffy weakest member, ussop, could have taken them all out.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 02:47 PM

With this new time time fruit I have to ask myself something.
Is there someone in the current timeline that is from the past? Is there someone who just seems out of place?
Yes, Fuji, shanks and buggy. They all always seemed odd to me. Why would roger recruit two kids when he was in his last and most dangerous trip to raftel. He was a pirate for 10 or 20 years and only by the end does he decide to recruit kids..
Fuji also looks odd but I have no theory on why other than he is weird.


No one seems obviously out of place to me. Remember the fruit only became avialable 20 years ago, so no new user is from too far in the past.
Not to mention anyone the old user set forward would still have a normal life span.
The life span point is important because then we need to ask- why? A human can only live 100 ish years in op, why send one to this year? In my chapter review i joked about the user of the time fruit samuri jacking every powerful enemy to the same exact time period, well.......this would be like oda actually doing that.

Mot to mention she appears to have been in wano for some time, at least long enough to have an 8 year old kid and i assume long enough to fall in love with oden. So realistically speaking anyone currently sent forward would probably have to be from wano. But we dont know where she was before that, it is hard to assume a woman traveling through time would be able to easily travel the oceans. Weird enough she got to wano, dont muddy the waters by telling me she was born in the east blue and sailed to wano.


So as of now i dont see anyone i would assume is from an old age, or from wano. But who knows, oda could change anyone 9n a whim. But it would be out of no where if he did.
 
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Posted 13 October 2018 - 01:45 PM

No one seems obviously out of place to me. Remember the fruit only became avialable 20 years ago, so no new user is from too far in the past.
Not to mention anyone the old user set forward would still have a normal life span.
The life span point is important because then we need to ask- why? A human can only live 100 ish years in op, why send one to this year? In my chapter review i joked about the user of the time fruit samuri jacking every powerful enemy to the same exact time period, well.......this would be like oda actually doing that.

Mot to mention she appears to have been in wano for some time, at least long enough to have an 8 year old kid and i assume long enough to fall in love with oden. So realistically speaking anyone currently sent forward would probably have to be from wano. But we dont know where she was before that, it is hard to assume a woman traveling through time would be able to easily travel the oceans. Weird enough she got to wano, dont muddy the waters by telling me she was born in the east blue and sailed to wano.


So as of now i dont see anyone i would assume is from an old age, or from wano. But who knows, oda could change anyone 9n a whim. But it would be out of no where if he did.


The thing is that oden traveled the seas with roger. We don't know when he started his voyage but we know he was in the last one, the one that reached raftel. This last voyage was roughly 5 years before kaidos coup.
What if he picked toki in some random island. What if toki was from an island that suffered the same fate as mihawk island, the civilization got wiped, and because of that she kept going forward and forward to find rescue.
Maybe she sent the best samurais to now so they wouldn't age. Maybe Fuji was sent to manipulate the WG into interfering with this upcoming war.

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Posted 19 October 2018 - 12:48 AM

It would be funny if Dragon also has a Dragon Zoan, only Western model (the kind with wings we see in Western fantasy movies). The Western model's ability varies whereas Chinese one is famous for controlling all sorts of power, most notably elemental power like lightning, rain, fire and as a result, controlling weather. As well as shapeshift.

 

Oda is dead set on Emperors being able to control/affect weather, eh? Shanks and WB's presumably CoC clash split the sky.


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Posted Yesterday, 02:25 PM

It would be funny if Dragon also has a Dragon Zoan, only Western model (the kind with wings we see in Western fantasy movies). The Western model's ability varies whereas Chinese one is famous for controlling all sorts of power, most notably elemental power like lightning, rain, fire and as a result, controlling weather. As well as shapeshift.

 

Oda is dead set on Emperors being able to control/affect weather, eh? Shanks and WB's presumably CoC clash split the sky.

 

ya oda realized that BM's "controlling the weather" was a non factor so he wants a second go at it.

 

like how we recently found out that pica's dad/brother is on kidaou's crew as a commander. and how bartolomeo took kidd's personality, is iva and mr 2 the same person? possibly...... and don't even get me started on the burst fruit and ton fruit. and we even have the fact that Crocodile and DD had the same exact plan.

 

Oda loves his "hold up, give me a second shot at this" attempts.


 
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Posted Today, 10:11 AM

@captain kidd some fun anime special for you. Kizaru vs Law and Luffy

 

https://www.youtube....7&v=6DhwxpOWPUo


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Posted Today, 10:23 AM

@captain kidd some fun anime special for you. Kizaru vs Law and Luffy

 

https://www.youtube....7&v=6DhwxpOWPUo

 

lol if you were going to tell me that OP was going to steal a page from FT i would of called you a liar. but at least it was my favorite arc from FT so there is that.


 
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