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#1341 Chillman

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Posted 20 March 2019 - 04:18 PM


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Posted 27 March 2019 - 06:16 AM

If you create a vivre card and link it to someone and then that someone is sent forward in time. Does the vivre card
1 go into the future with the person its linked to
2 gets destroyed by disappearing into thin air or
3 stays in idle mode until the person it was linked reappears.

This could answer some questions. Maybe no one really betrayed the minks and the alliance. Maybe raizo vivre card from 20 years ago just become active and jack went to get it.

Who do you believe was the previous ruler of the minks?
Do you think there was a third ruler? Maybe a sloth, ferret or otter. I was actually looking into the extinguished sea mink, which is my assumption (one rules the forest, one the city and the last one would be the seas). If there was a third ruler would he be one of the 3 samurais kinemon was talking about?

Is anyone still interested in elbaf?
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Posted 27 March 2019 - 11:33 AM

If you create a vivre card and link it to someone and then that someone is sent forward in time. Does the vivre card
1 go into the future with the person its linked to
2 gets destroyed by disappearing into thin air or
3 stays in idle mode until the person it was linked reappears.

This could answer some questions. Maybe no one really betrayed the minks and the alliance. Maybe raizo vivre card from 20 years ago just become active and jack went to get it.

Who do you believe was the previous ruler of the minks?
Do you think there was a third ruler? Maybe a sloth, ferret or otter. I was actually looking into the extinguished sea mink, which is my assumption (one rules the forest, one the city and the last one would be the seas). If there was a third ruler would he be one of the 3 samurais kinemon was talking about?

Is anyone still interested in elbaf?


I was never interested in elbaf or wano for that matter.

If jack had a vivi card, dude he would know where rizo is. I guess we can say jack is really stupid, but still.... he wanted way too much time to not use a vivi card.
 
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Posted 29 March 2019 - 05:36 AM

Maybe no one really betrayed the minks and the alliance. Maybe raizo vivre card from 20 years ago just become active and jack went to get it.



If jack had a vivi card, dude he would know where rizo is. I guess we can say jack is really stupid, but still.... he wanted way too much time to not use a vivi card.


After this last chapter I dropped that idea.
It has to be a traitor in the alliance.
It had to be one of the groups present in zou because they knew raizo, and raizo alone, was there.
Jack went there searching for raizo alone. Not Momo, kine or the pencil guy.

Either a heart pirate member or one of the minks.
I doubt it is either Law or Inu because one was tortured and the other made the original plan and had this vendetta against DD.


I was able to narrow down the minks to the musketeers because kinemon is only revealing the tattoo recruiting plan to his allies as they arrive no wano.
As soon as the muskeeters arrived the plan was exposed. It can be a coincidence or just that the traitor didn't get the opportunity to report to kaido side.



If I had to select a suspect from those two groups, I would select vanda or jean bean.


On our most recent chapter, we can clearly see that law cares about his crew and values their integrity and loyalty. He has had those members(shachi, penguin and bepo) for almost a decade, but not jean bean. We don't know who he was affiliated before being a slave. All we know is that he was a pirate.

As for the musketeers it had to be someone who we know to some extend so the revelation isn't anti climatic. It is either one of the top 3 musketeers or vanda. Imo it still makes no sense how vanda made all that ruckus with nami and it would be interesting that between vanda and pedro, two of the ones that were present in a flashback with roger, one is super loyal and the other is a low life traitor.

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Posted 01 April 2019 - 07:25 PM

After this last chapter I dropped that idea.
It has to be a traitor in the alliance.
It had to be one of the groups present in zou because they knew raizo, and raizo alone, was there.
Jack went there searching for raizo alone. Not Momo, kine or the pencil guy.

Either a heart pirate member or one of the minks.
I doubt it is either Law or Inu because one was tortured and the other made the original plan and had this vendetta against DD.


I was able to narrow down the minks to the musketeers because kinemon is only revealing the tattoo recruiting plan to his allies as they arrive no wano.
As soon as the muskeeters arrived the plan was exposed. It can be a coincidence or just that the traitor didn't get the opportunity to report to kaido side.



If I had to select a suspect from those two groups, I would select vanda or jean bean.


On our most recent chapter, we can clearly see that law cares about his crew and values their integrity and loyalty. He has had those members(shachi, penguin and bepo) for almost a decade, but not jean bean. We don't know who he was affiliated before being a slave. All we know is that he was a pirate.

As for the musketeers it had to be someone who we know to some extend so the revelation isn't anti climatic. It is either one of the top 3 musketeers or vanda. Imo it still makes no sense how vanda made all that ruckus with nami and it would be interesting that between vanda and pedro, two of the ones that were present in a flashback with roger, one is super loyal and the other is a low life traitor.


Wow there. You are over looking some really obvious problems here. The biggest problem is- dd knows kiadou.

Dd knew drawling guy momo and kin were all in DR, he probably even knew drawling guy got separated. It is even likely CC called DD and told him kin and momo ended up on PH. DD's crew knew for a fact raizo was not with the other samurai. DD is smart he probably knew where they came from and what direction they left (espically if CC told him they were on PH) Is it still weird jack was looking for just raizo?

And before you start messing with the time line. Momo was alone on PH long enough to nearly starve so this took place over a long time.

As for how they found out about the tattoo bullshit plan. Well... it wasnt ever that good of a plan. Passing out weird notes around town.... idk maybe a ninja saw the sh crew handing out notes? You know they have ninja here right? They are so good they can sneak up on robbin... wahoo....

Maybe you are just used to WCI. Maybe it is possible not every emperor crew is incompetent?
 
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Posted 03 April 2019 - 09:30 AM

Wow there. You are over looking some really obvious problems here. The biggest problem is- dd knows kiadou.

Dd knew drawling guy momo and kin were all in DR, he probably even knew drawling guy got separated. It is even likely CC called DD and told him kin and momo ended up on PH. DD's crew knew for a fact raizo was not with the other samurai. DD is smart he probably knew where they came from and what direction they left (espically if CC told him they were on PH) Is it still weird jack was looking for just raizo?

And before you start messing with the time line. Momo was alone on PH long enough to nearly starve so this took place over a long time.

As for how they found out about the tattoo bullshit plan. Well... it wasnt ever that good of a plan. Passing out weird notes around town.... idk maybe a ninja saw the sh crew handing out notes? You know they have ninja here right? They are so good they can sneak up on robbin... wahoo....

Maybe you are just used to WCI. Maybe it is possible not every emperor crew is incompetent?


You are right. DD knew who momo was. So when momo, kin and kan got chased on Dressrosa, it was due to their identity :jawdrop:. It actually never crossed my mind and the reason why law attacked kin was because of CC knew who kin was and ordered law to do is bidding, which in turn was DD bidding and then kaido biding. (or maybe because kin was attacking people)

 

Going by the logic that DD knew momo, kin and kan where in DR  then the traitor is kinemon or kanjuro. Only they alone knew raizo would go to zou and where they were currently at.

It is weird that kanjuro stayed in DR for so long and didn't transform into a toy.

 

And going back to the original thought that intel is well shared through the alliance of kaido and DD, then by the time kin, kan and momo got to DR their faces were already imprinted in all of DD minions and goons. This brings me back to my other two suspects vanda or jean bean.



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Posted 03 April 2019 - 01:00 PM

You are right. DD knew who momo was. So when momo, kin and kan got chased on Dressrosa, it was due to their identity :jawdrop:. It actually never crossed my mind and the reason why law attacked kin was because of CC knew who kin was and ordered law to do is bidding, which in turn was DD bidding and then kaido biding. (or maybe because kin was attacking people)

Going by the logic that DD knew momo, kin and kan where in DR then the traitor is kinemon or kanjuro. Only they alone knew raizo would go to zou and where they were currently at.
It is weird that kanjuro stayed in DR for so long and didn't transform into a toy.

And going back to the original thought that intel is well shared through the alliance of kaido and DD, then by the time kin, kan and momo got to DR their faces were already imprinted in all of DD minions and goons. This brings me back to my other two suspects vanda or jean bean.


That is possible too. I think the most reasonable conclusion is this-

3 Samuri and momo set sail.
2 and momo arrive at DR.
Dd tells kiadou about 2 samuri and momo arriving on DR

Now it is apparently common knowledge the minks had a good relationship with the samurai.

Kiadou knows zou is between wano and DR.

So with only one phone call jack could of came to the conclusion that 1 samurai was on zou. Hell he may of even assumed he was there to drum up support to fight kiadou.

The biggest implication I have to support this, and you should factor this into account if you keep your theory, is that sheepshead left.
If jack really had inside info why on earth would sheepshead head leave? He has to be the biggest moron in the world. And the girl said they would just tell jack they couldn't find the ninja, well that isnt really an option if they had inside info.

So I guess to counter that point there is only 1 real arguement-
it was a member of laws/lessor mink crew who doesnt know where exactly the ninja was, all they knew is that the ninja was on zou at one point. So this would explain why they left. They figured it would be safe to say the ninja left.
- problem with that is 1- I dont think there was a mink who didnt know where the ninja was. I think they all knew he was there.
- did the law crew even knew the ninja was there?
- this would make Jack's crew look beyond stupid. Ignoring the fact they shouldn't just give up that easy, they should of had a boat looking out for people leaving zou. It cant be hard to ensure no one leaves zou. And jack arrived on a ship so all they need is one guy to stay with the ship....

But do you really believe that? For the betrayal to mean anything it would have to be an important person. And if it was an important person they would know where the ninja was hidding and jack wouldnt of needed to torture all the people.....I mean he can.... but when he was called away he should of gone directly to the ninja and captured him.
 
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Posted 04 April 2019 - 06:10 AM

Dd tells kiadou about 2 samuri and momo arriving on DR
Kiadou knows zou is between wano and DR.
So with only one phone call jack could of came to the conclusion that 1 samurai was on zou. Hell he may of even assumed he was there to drum up support to fight kiadou.

The biggest implication I have to support this, and you should factor this into account if you keep your theory, is that sheepshead left.


So I guess to counter that point there is only 1 real arguement-
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But do you really believe that? For the betrayal to mean anything it would have to be an important person. And if it was an important person they would know where the ninja was hidding and jack wouldnt of needed to torture all the people.....I mean he can.... but when he was called away he should of gone directly to the ninja and captured him.


I like that one. But that's just a big assumption. If yes it would have been made by DD not kaido. Kaido is the type of person that like to deal with problems himself. DD is a cautious person that would work with kaido underlings to get extra benefits with the beast pirates.

Your support point does not debunked my theory.
My traitor theory would simply play out like your assumption theory. The difference is that they have confirmation Raizo was in fact on wano and justifies the extreme attack on zou.
The reason you are so quick to dismiss a mink traitor is because you assume all minks know raizo location. Given how he was hidden on the whale forest, only the higher ups or just the guardians knew about the exact location of raizo.
Poor traitor, having to call jack and tell him he doesn't know where raizo is. He probably got slapped around by jack that's why when sanjis group arrived, no one noticed him because he himself was healing from those slap injuries :lolxg: .

 

I have one more point to counter your assumption argument. O-kiku. If DD knew about 2 samurais and momo and assumed the others where on zou, then why didn't they ask for okiku as well?


My mink traitor argument can only be justified with the assumption that not every mink knows about the content inside the whale tree.

Why is that? Because if that information is known with all the minks and one of them was in fact a traitor, then kaido would have stolen the poneglyff years ago.

 

One thing I have to admit a betrayal from a not so important mink would mean nothing for us readers but one from a heart pirate member would mean character development for Law.



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Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:38 PM

A key part of this that yall are skipping is HOW they keep finding Zou. Inuarashi even mentioned this. They knew for sure that he was there but that's it. So it can't be someone from Law's crew cuz how the hell would they know? They found out when the SHs found out. I have no clue who the traitor is (if there even is one) but I think Law's crew is for sure innocent, and that includes Bepo since he left as a child. There might be a Mink that sided with Orochi/Kaidou or someone on their squad that has some sort of special power. But knowing Oda, it might just be that some fodder overheard the plan and told them, Batman maybe?



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Posted 05 April 2019 - 05:02 AM

A key part of this that yall are skipping is HOW they keep finding Zou. Inuarashi even mentioned this. They knew for sure that he was there but that's it. So it can't be someone from Law's crew cuz how the hell would they know? They found out when the SHs found out. I have no clue who the traitor is (if there even is one) but I think Law's crew is for sure innocent, and that includes Bepo since he left as a child. There might be a Mink that sided with Orochi/Kaidou or someone on their squad that has some sort of special power. But knowing Oda, it might just be that some fodder overheard the plan and told them, Batman maybe?


Pekoms was no navigator and was able to find zou because he's from there. This alone explains how the heart pirates got there (Bepo).

The traitor probably was on zou all along but didn't know raizo hiding place. Jack reached zou because he had the traitors vivre card.

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Posted 08 April 2019 - 01:46 AM

I wonder what to expect from the next chap. Somehow Zoros story seems to have reached a first end. I think we wont see him until some time for healing has passed.

 

Hopefully there will be some action. I would  like to see Sanji/ Law group fighting to free Laws crew. Would be epic if we finally see HawkinsxLaw and Sanji x Drake. I always looked forward for Drake vs Sanji, since Drake seems like a tanky champ for having an ancient Zoan (mayhaps awakened?) and most likely being pretty good at CoA, since Kaidou crew seems like the fighter/challanges/raw, brute strenght crew amongst the yonkou.

Moreover Hawkins has shown interest in Law several times by now. I finally wish for a reveal what his DF truly is capable of!



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Posted 08 April 2019 - 12:14 PM

Pekoms was no navigator and was able to find zou because he's from there. This alone explains how the heart pirates got there (Bepo).

The traitor probably was on zou all along but didn't know raizo hiding place. Jack reached zou because he had the traitors vivre card.

Well Bepo is a navigator so him finding isn't surprising, I meant him knowing about Raizou. Why would he know that Raizou is there when he's been gone the whole time.  



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Posted 15 May 2019 - 06:19 AM

Don't really know where to post this and I don't want create a new thread so..

 

Who is the most disappointing character in terms of design?

Obviously anyone can simply say this or that, but who had the potential to awesome, being hyped up and all, but in the end didn't deliver.



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Posted 15 May 2019 - 12:51 PM

Don't really know where to post this and I don't want create a new thread so..

Who is the most disappointing character in terms of design?
Obviously anyone can simply say this or that, but who had the potential to awesome, being hyped up and all, but in the end didn't deliver.


Well hype wise orochi.

But character with the potential that is a huge disappointment is the female ninja. She uses the decay fruit for gods sake. And yoda is going to give it to an ugly woman in white footsie pajamas? It is like he didnt even want to try to put any work into her character. Oda really only knows how to draw women hot or ugly. He can draw men in between he can make ugly men good looking men (I assume, some people think luffy is good looking) and he can make average men like bartolomeo. And her character design is horrible. Her clothing are as dull as they come, he might as well judt put her in a kimono...
And I believe I have said this before. But jack uses the mammoth fruit, king uses the.....pterodactyl fruit... kiadou uses a dragon fruit and this woman uses the freaking decay fruit?!? Oda you are supposed to give the good fruit to the bad guys! What are you doing?

Now I get there are alot of ways oda can take the decay fruit. And he will probably waste it.
 
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Posted 19 May 2019 - 10:07 AM

Well hype wise orochi.


Even though I also dislike his design I have to disagree with this, mostly because I don't see him as being a character that received much hype in the first place. He was mentioned briefly for the first time at the end of Zou, he was never brought up at all during Whole Cake and the Reverie and even once we got to Wano the focus in part on was more on Kaido and his headliners (Hawkins, Holden, Speed) then anything related to Orochi who usually just mentioned in passing.
I think the most hype he ever received prior to his first appearance was from a bunch of young kids talking about him in school and even that was an obvious example of indoctrination meant to make you think that the truth was the exact opposite.

For me it has the be Weevil, I had waited since the time-skip to see who had taken the vacant Shichibukai spots. I thought Law was a great choice and Buggy was acceptable but when I saw Weevil for the first time my brain just could not accept that.


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