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[Crossover Battle] Kaguya (Naruto) vs. Yhwach (Bleach)


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#1 Chillman

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 07:51 AM

With both series over, and an asked about topic on YouTube, who wins in this fight?

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:19 AM

no conditions?

any terrain?

no poll?


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:28 AM

Kaguya doesn't have that silver arrow, so I'd say that Yhwach.



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:03 AM

no conditions?
any terrain?
no poll?


I don't know what conditions you'd even place.
I'm less concerned about terrain, but universe logic. In Bleach, you need to be around someone's reiatsu level to even injure someone, and I assume that Kaguya will just dimension hop.
I'd rather it not be a popularity contest. I'm personally leaning towards Yhwach, but admit that Kaguya has high destructive power.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 12:49 PM

One has raw output and quite hax herself. The other is straight up hax. Not sure...can Yhwach do something about Kaguya's abilities if he sees them in the future?


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 01:27 PM

I don't know what conditions you'd even place.
I'm less concerned about terrain, but universe logic. In Bleach, you need to be around someone's reiatsu level to even injure someone, and I assume that Kaguya will just dimension hop.
I'd rather it not be a popularity contest. I'm personally leaning towards Yhwach, but admit that Kaguya has high destructive power.

 

just asking cause usually those details(conditions and terrain) were clarified at the start, even in the case they were all null

 

about the poll, it could be made public, so it's visible who posted a reason for their vote and who didn't

the poll would have no value anyway, just a way to tally the overall opinions, but see yourself what is best


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 03:56 PM

Kaguya due to the fact that her destrcutive capacity is higher.


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 06:53 PM

Didn't Bach basically said that he can "chose" his future? Also, he has all SR's abilities, including Gremmy unlimited imagination, Gerard """""immortality""""", etc... Not to mention that with the lethal dose thingy he can become immune to Kagura's attacks pretty quickly.

And he also had the balance right?



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 09:01 PM


Didn't Bach basically said that he can "chose" his future?

 

he did but look how that turned out. When he was speaking of his ability he wasn't factoring in people from other universes.

 

 


Also, he has all SR's abilities, including Gremmy unlimited imagination, Gerard """""immortality""""", etc... Not to mention that with the lethal dose thingy he can become immune to Kagura's attacks pretty quickly.

 

if he does he doesn't use their abiltites in fights.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:06 PM

if he does he doesn't use their abiltites in fights.

to be fair we would never need to.



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 06:10 PM

They are both pretty hax but I think Kaguya's access to all kinds of genjutsu would give her the victory. Ywach's susceptibility to hypnosis is the most exploitable weakness of his most abused power. 


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:40 AM

Yhwach was so OP something out of his universe was needed to kill him (e.g magazine axing the series)



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 11:33 AM

to be fair we would never need to.

 

If Ywach used the Miracle after getting finished off by Ichigo, Bleach's ending would have been very different.  :lolxg:

 

I think it's fair to assume Ywach can't use the SR's innate schrifts he only gets their power level and knowledge added to his own. And if he can use theirs, he certainly can't use more than one at a time. 

 

Because he'd be unbeatable if he used any three of A,B,D, E, L,M,X,U,V,W Y on top of him being really powerful anyway. And if M, P, S and O stack, his destructive power would get ridiculous the longer a fight lasts. 

 

He also had access to Yama's bankai at the end of Bleach. The sternritter couldn't use their Vollstandig and a shinigami's bankai at the same time, but Ywach never demonstrated Volstandig. ...So a scenario in which Ywach has access to any letter including his own would surely lead to his victory. Kaguya got stopped by a sexy clone no justu, L would really be all Ywach needs.   

 

But from what we've seen, Ywach can only use 'A' which could be exploited by Kaguya, depending on how smart she is. 


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 01:51 AM

Kaguya can just trap him in a moon.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:27 AM

Ends in sex. Now seriously Yhwach wins with mid-diffuclty, and BFR him won't do anything to him. 
 
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Since when can Kaguya sealed people in the moon?


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:49 AM

Real question is since when can't Yhwach just break out?

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 01:08 PM

Better yet, use the almighty to appear outside of it. Like how he used it to teleport behind Ichigo, by choosing a future where he was already there, before Ichigo even lost his previous posture on the scan.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 03:42 PM

Yhwach wins.

 

Yhwach Wins.

 

Yhwach Wins.

 

Reason is simple, Yhwach even killed Bleach due to how OP he was, impossible to create a new villain afterward...


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 04:46 PM

I would like to agree, but the second novel that Kubo will Co-Author, will explain what is/are the Arrancars, Fullbrings, Four Noble Houses and the Soul King backstory. (It better explain how and if he agree to be a prisoner of Soul Society) Tousen's friend's killer will be revealed as probably the main villain. Hisagi is fodder, so the Villain shouldn't be that strong, unless Hisagi got an upgrade with that Bankai. Spring better come soon.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:07 PM


Since when can Kaguya sealed people in the moon?

 

Isn't she as powerful as the sage of 6 paths or something.

 

Plus she can do things like

- place people into dimensions of acid

- absorb chakra

- Matter Destruction via her truth seeking balls


 

Real question is since when can't Yhwach just break out?

 

he has never displayed power to break out of something as massive as the moon.

 

Perhaps he can bust a city but not the moon.


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