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#1 Furinji Saiga

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 03:44 AM

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:01 AM

woooooww what a chapter !!!

extremely pointless !!!

no progress at all !!!

what did this chapter tell us ???

pudding is a good girl peh peh peh !!!

oda is keeping the disappointment at highest as possible  !!!


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:04 AM

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Not liking tragic Pudding reveal, but Sanji's CoO showcase made up for it. 

The altar/cake was fabulous and as expected poor Brulee was used for Luffys entrance, all those mirror clones from animals eating Big Moms most precious cake.  :P


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:10 AM

So now Sanji is officially married.

 

Also it's such an irony that one of the ugliest creatures of One Piece, Big Mom calls her daughter creepy.. lol



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:15 AM

So Pudding couldn't go through with shooting Sanji huh.

 

Also so much for Dogtooth's future prediction ability, fat lot of use that was.

 

XD at Luffy oversleeping.  Also wtf is with the multiple Luffy's, is that new tech or something?  Kinda reminds me of Naruto's shadow clones tbh.



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:17 AM

expected Pudding's tragic past of being bullied from her family, but didn't expect the reveal to go down like this

i'm now curious to see the rest of her flashback about Lola

 

 

Also it's such an irony that one of the ugliest creatures of One Piece, Big Mom calls her daughter creepy.. lol

the irony was strong there

 

 

who wants to guess which luffy is who? Jimbe and Chopper are easy to spot

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:19 AM

 

 

 Also wtf is with the multiple Luffy's, is that new tech or something?  Kinda reminds me of Naruto's shadow clones tbh.

That's Brulees mirror clone ability, she was even shown apologising for it before it happened. 

 

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:19 AM

 

Also wtf is with the multiple Luffy's, is that new tech or something?  Kinda reminds me of Naruto's shadow clones tbh.

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:24 AM

Great sanji moment with dodging that bullet stone. Definitely sanji vs dogtooth. I bet sanji will kick dogtooth and say " what if that would have hit pudding Chan you b@stard???"

Disappointing to see pudding go down that way. Looks like somewhere beneath in her heart she liked sanji's cry baby behaviour.

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:34 AM

Man this was a good chapter... except that pudding moment... wtf girl


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:36 AM

Man this was a good chapter... except that pudding moment... wtf girl

cant expect much else from Oda when it comes to female villains sadly.  :(


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:41 AM

Sanji going all MC Hammer on BM's crew

 

 

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 04:50 AM

You know, Pudding is not suddenly a good person. Some people, like Doffy, are born evil, while others become evil through the choices they make. Pudding was bullied, same as Sanji. Both made different choices and dealt with their situation in a different manner. Sanji found his joy and peace in cooking, becoming someone who provides for others and takes care of them, while Pudding chose to grow and become herself the bully. That was pretty much the role she played this arc, finding pleasure in telling Reiju about her morbid fate, or mocking Sanji for his vulnerabilities. Sure, you can say that she's getting circumstances, but i'm fine with these more nuanced characters than just pure black and white one's.

 

that's a nice parallel between Sanji and Pudding, at the start of this arc we saw in detail how Sanji's early life was harsh and how he developed from it

now it's like we're seeing the same again, but with Pudding she developed in a different direction


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:00 AM

It's silly though. The last 2 to 3 chapters were Pudding thinking "Damn I want to kill you so bad you fucking pervert" then suddenly is "oh he thinks I'm beautiful"... C'mon Oda, you could've had the girl shoot him anyways he was already going to dodge it...

 

And honestly, don't give future prediction powers to Katakuri. C'mon dude, you can predict what a dude is going to say but you can't predict Sanji is going to move his head backwards?


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:20 AM

 

And honestly, don't give future prediction powers to Katakuri. C'mon dude, you can predict what a dude is going to say but you can't predict Sanji is going to move his head backwards?

 

CoO vs CoO, if Sanji can predict too, that means he can predict the actions of Katakuri too, if they have the same level of predicting ability they cancel each other


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:26 AM

It's silly though. The last 2 to 3 chapters were Pudding thinking "Damn I want to kill you so bad you fucking pervert" then suddenly is "oh he thinks I'm beautiful"... C'mon Oda, you could've had the girl shoot him anyways he was already going to dodge it...

 

And honestly, don't give future prediction powers to Katakuri. C'mon dude, you can predict what a dude is going to say but you can't predict Sanji is going to move his head backwards?

 

Katakuri can not predict a future that is not set in motion. Without him attacking Sanji, that future would have no existed in the first place, it was not there for him to see the outcome. If he decides to do something to change a given future, he can only see the effects after he acts on it and creates the new future.

 

So that's basically his limitation. He can choose to modify something that doesn't go according to his plan, but he needs to make the right decision without knowing exactly how his actions will affect the immediate future.


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:29 AM

Waiting to see BM's response to seeing her beloved cake being eaten in front of her eyes.

So, using clones.. was that luffy's idea? If yes, proud of you luffy kun.

How did they get inside the wedding cake? Brulees mirror again?

Vinsmokes are already alert. How will BM proceed?

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:36 AM

woooooww what a chapter !!!
extremely pointless !!!
no progress at all !!!


... The wedding ceremony (as in the ritual) finished and the mess began... Like... What else did you expect to see on a single chapter...? BM being killed and SHs on Wano...?

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:46 AM

Awesome chapter.
We all know things aren't going according to plan. But who would have thought Pudding reacted like that? Nobody, that is why some of the ppl here are mad at Oda.

 

Sanji is the MAN. After all the hardships.

- Stolen Pudding's heart

- Being real, and still
- Dodged the bullet

Looks like they will get married after all.



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 05:49 AM


Katakuri can not predict a future that is not set in motion. Without him attacking Sanji, that future would have no existed in the first place, it was not there for him to see the outcome. If he decides to do something to change a given future, he can only see the effects after he acts on it and creates the new future.

From the moment he decided to attack Sanji the future was put in motion. Before he threw his whatever it is, he had already thought about attacking him so the future was already set in motion. When aiming he should already be able to see the future he started IMO

 

But I can accept your explanation


 


CoO vs CoO, if Sanji can predict too, that means he can predict the actions of Katakuri too, if they have the same level of predicting ability they cancel each other

Everything we know about the two of them points at Katakuri being extremely better at CoO than Sanji, or anyone else we've seen in the manga 


 


Vinsmokes are already alert. How will BM proceed?

They're still unarmed and in the middle of her crew. I don't know why her crew doesn't attack them already, they're supposed to attack after the gunshot


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