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#501 FongShwei69

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 11:34 AM

Raimi has a style to it, he likes to build this campy/serious dichotomy in his films, but he never really outright references it, like in the X-Men.


Actually... he did:



Tim Burton did it too, in the scene at the Axis Chemical Plant when Jack Napier first lays eyes on Batman's costume. And later during the parade scene, the Joker quips that Batman was at home (quote): "washing his tights".

There's more subtlety to Raimis works, but he still prioritizes his own vision over just making a faithful adaptation. He makes his movies almost surreal in a way, he's not just winking at the audience.


There's nothing subtle about this scene, where J. Jonah and his assistant come up with Dr. Octavius' supervillain name, by referencing Dr. Strange. I'd say that's winking at the audience.



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 12:43 PM

Actually... he did:



Tim Burton did it too, in the scene at the Axis Chemical Plant when Jack Napier first lays eyes on Batman's costume. And later during the parade scene, the Joker quips that Batman was at home (quote): "washing his tights".


There's nothing subtle about this scene, where J. Jonah and his assistant come up with Dr. Octavius' supervillain name, by referencing Dr. Strange. I'd say that's winking at the audience.

That's not the same thing though. In the X-Men scene they're referencing the actual comic, in this they're just making an awkward elevator scene where the suit would obviously be addressed. It's not self referential. That JJJ scene is probably one of the few times the movies actually break the fourth wall, but for the most part the humor isn't referential.

Look, we could be doing this all fucking week just discussing each individual scene in the Trilogy, but that wasn't even the actual point. Raimis has a specific style of absurdity and campiness to pretty much all of his movies, there's really no debating that, he's known for that. All you're doing is trying to claim that some times people have done something similar once or twice, which is just not interesting to me, or practical. Tone is something that should be obvious, it's not something you have to explain, otherwise, it fails. It's like if I was talking about the Shining and you bring up that the paranormal activity movies kinda did something similar that one time. If you don't get the tone of the movie, then there's really nothing that I can say that's gonna help ya. So as to not further waste our time, I'll be going home now.

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 02:25 PM

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#504 Graeystone

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 02:59 AM

But Raimi specifically does it in a very self aware manner. The 70s superman was goofy because that's what they though would be more appealing, but Raimi has a style to it, he likes to build this campy/serious dichotomy in his films, but he never really outright references it, like in the X-Men. There's more subtlety to Raimis works, but he still prioritizes his own vision over just making a faithful adaptation. He makes his movies almost surreal in a way, he's not just winking at the audience.

Well the Christopher Reeves Superman was pretty good(although they should've stopped at 2). A lot better than the last two updated Superman flicks. Oh, and talking about Superman, did anyone watch the Death Of Superman yet?(newest DC animation movie).


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Posted 06 September 2018 - 05:44 PM

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 09:30 PM

@Tokoya just watched M.I.6 and thought it was great, i knew of the action but felt that i knew a certain person wasn't who they're weren't supposed to be lol

Still up in the air of which film i liked most, 4, 5 or 6?

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