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#1 Furinji Saiga

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 12:20 AM

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 12:39 AM

Belo Betty-sama! Rallying powers huh. I really hope she's as strong as Sabo too, or at least close.

Edit: is it missing a last page?

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 01:13 AM

Good chapter, very nice seeing those RA commanders and of course Dragon himself too.

My personal fave out of those four has gotta be Karasu, although Belo Betty is awesome as well.

I am kinda half expecting both Karasu and Tokoyami from BnHA to actually say "quote the raven never more." at some point in their series sooner or later. XP

Blackbeard's new subordinate - this Pinkbeard guy seems to nothing more than weakass scrub given how easily he got crushed.

I dunno why BB even bothers to have weaklings like Brownbeard and Pinkbeard as his followers for tbh.

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 01:42 AM

Not a bad chapter. I like that we are finally getting to see the RA fleshed out more. They have been in the background for so long and outside of a few members we never really got to see any of them. I wonder what all their bounties are given they are probably the 4 strongest under Dragon and Sabo.

 

Betty's fruit is pretty interesting and Morley seems really weird, lol. Though the Commander that interested me the most was also Karasu. I'm not sure what his fruit could be. Obviously you'd think it would be a crow fruit, but the way he used it was so unlike what you would see from other Zoan fruit users. So it has to be something different. Maybe a mythical zoan possibly? It is just that the Shadow and Darkness fruit are already taken, so it couldn't be those. Also given how Lind uses inventions I wonder if he will have a connection to Vegapunk. 

 

I am curious how long this Reverie are will last. Apparently Wano won't start until 2019 maybe? So this arc might be longer than I thought it would be. I figured it would be the world leaders talking about something for a bit and then the RA making their declaration of war then it would cut to Luffy on his way to Wano, but maybe we will get to see the RA in action some. Maybe they would fight the CP0 and Oda could use this as an opportunity to give the CP0 some attention too. Sabo vs Lucci might be interesting. 


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 02:19 AM

So Karasu is the guy with the crows in Dresrosa that Sabo hopped on. His mask makes me think of BnHA's eight precepts.

 

Morley is giant okama? And his fruit is another variation of Pica's or what? captain kidd is gonna be mad LOL

 

Did Aokiji sell his power to Lindeberg :xD:?

 

The Cheer cheer fruit? Can she amp up her own power? Or is it a completely support type? Not that there's anything wrong with it though. She can still be a strong fighter on her own. But this fruit makes a normal citizen beat a 52mil pirate. Though bounty does not always equal strength, it's still useful. This means RA does not have fodders but glorified fodders. I see, with this fruit Sabo and Dragon may power-up and be First Commander and Yonkou material, eh?

 

There is still that guy showing up in DD's speech.

 

Pinkbeard? 52mil? Oh come on, are BB's allied pirates' names a bunch of color+beard? Someone give me the full color palette so I can count how many allies BB has.

 

I have to say, the designs are underwhelming.


 

Wait, why is there Yonkou's ally in Paradise? Shouldn't they all be in New World? is it because of Reverie or BB is unique?


 

I think there are pages missing because only 15 pages this chapter while normally it's 17. Or did Oda really draw only 15?


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 03:25 AM

I guess the revolution will not be televised. It will be live. B)


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 03:29 AM

Nice chapter, I like their designs. I wonder if the Steampunk theme is intentional to have some more contrast between (Industrial) Revolution vs. old nobility?

 

Also, good that the crows from Dressrosa were explained.

 

 

 


Pinkbeard? 52mil? Oh come on, are BB's allied pirates' names a bunch of color+beard? Someone give me the full color palette so I can count how many allies BB has.

 

I imagine it to be something like this:

"Hey, Captain Teach, some guy called that wants to sail under your flag. Mediocre bounty."

"Sure, whatever. Does he have a beard?"

"Yeah"

"He can be... uh... Pinkbeard. Did we assign Pink already?"

"No, not yet."

"Good. Tell him he's Pinkbeard now"

 

Alternatively, Pirates just really like the Color+Beard moniker, this is the fourth one after all :lol:


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 03:37 AM

I guess the revolution will not be televised. It will be live. B)

Please, it's still 2 days until Reverie. You do know that's 10 years in real-time, right? :lolxg:


 


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 04:00 AM

There is still that guy showing up in DD's speech.

Yep. First thing I did was go back to chapter 802 or 803 to see if he was any of this new 4 commanders.

Nice chapter, I like their designs. I wonder if the Steampunk theme is intentional to have some more contrast between (Industrial) Revolution vs. old nobility?

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The revo also have a usopp. Not sniper, a guy whose powers are based on weapons and his own inventions.
His freeze weapon reminded me of vegapunk and frankie lasers.
Odd that the 4 commanders were hyped up by just taking down a mere 52mil pirate.
Well they didn't fight him, as they made the citizens kick his ass, but nevertheless they could have used some with a better prestige.
Did the revo commanders confirm that one of BB members was taken down for good in baltigo.

Now we know germa really sufered with the events of WCI. They were officially kicked out of the WG.

Why does dragon show no interest in luffy. He's worse than ging from HxH. Still better than gyro and guts father though...
Why is Iva saying Sanji disrespectful. Would he knowing Sanji was a vinsmoke mean anything. Does he hold a grudge against the vinsmoke and now regrets training Sanji?
I'm going to call it now. These commanders are at best the same strength as DD executives. In fact they might just be relevant because of their respective powers. Oda might even used them to introduce more deaths and make the reverie more intense. He did get a taste of blood in WCI with pedro and in less than 15 chapters he killed 2 more(pound and pekoms).
I am more interested in how Dragon will make his war declaration. Will he just pop in and out like obito did in naruto or will he take the sternritter route were they killed and destroyed anyone in their path to the leader of the opposing party. Either way I can see dragon picking up vegapunk and kuma in the process.

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 04:17 AM

Morley is the dig-dig guy who built Ivankov's secret level 4.5 in Impel Down. You heard it here first.


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 04:19 AM

Given their position I think they deals with the 4 Blues. So not that strong. Just like a certain family that could not manage to conquer North Blue LOL


 

Morley is the dig-dig guy who built Ivankov's secret level 4.5 in Impel Down. You heard it here first.

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 06:17 AM

So we get some side chapters and seeing what is going on around the world, and this time we start with the Revolutionary Army ready to declare  wars on the Celestial Dragons. I am so ready for this.

So Sado is still alive, what a shock I thought he was dead for sure all kidding aside. And nice to see Koala again, which reminds Jimbei better keep his promise of not dying.

The Commanders look awesome, Bado Betty looks so cool and hot. I can't wait to see here in the anime.

Great chapter.



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Posted 11 May 2018 - 07:14 AM

Still dont like orlumbus, i get anyone can call themself an admiral....but in reality you wouldn't unless you are a joke character... and orlumbus isnt....so what is he? Does oda want us to take a character who calls himself admiral but has the strength of franky seriously?

Once again i get admrial is just a generic top rank, but king is also a generic title for the ruler of a country, but you wouldnt see a man find an island the size of a football field and call himself king would you? Well yes you could but he would be a joke character.

Speaking of kings without islands, by by gemma, you lost the wg because you got fooled by bm..... very stupid... thats like breaking up with kate upton for....anyone else in the world....idk cant think of an actress someone wouldnt imiditally jump in and defend....

So....the wording..."lost" their base. Didnt say anything about leaving their base.

Also, isnt the tranny kingdom in the gl not the nw? Wow they are slow.....dudes everyone of value is in the nw now....

Well he fought an admiral he stood no chance against ao if he isnt an idiot he is at least very bad at decision making....

Well if i coud review the troop leading procedures real quick..... receive...issue...make... recon...start finilize... opord..supervise...
Dragon i cant help but feel finilizing the plan at this stage in the game is a little out of place...but maybe i missed a few steps....
More Importantly.... WHAT?!?!?! Declare war on WHO?!?! Luffy decarled war on the wg 600 chapters ago god damn it. What the hell?!?!?!?!? Has dragon never once decalred war on the wg after all the land he has took from them?
Dragon "ok guy we own this land now, take that wg flag down respectifully and carefully fold it and mail it back to the wg first class mail, dont for the love of god dont damage that flag or we will accidentally declare war on the wg and we dont want that"

Well this shoots my theory of dragon being cp0 out of the water. This fills in all the holes my theory seeked to anwser.- why hasnt the admirals ruthlessly hunted dragon down and killed him? He hasnt declared war on them yet.....

OR am i not reading far enough into this? Has dragon already declared war on the wg by taking alot of their land, but now he wants war with the CD? Well aside from the fact luffy already did that as well.....400 chapters ago.... what will that acomplish? This is like russia declaring war on the US, then 10 years later declaring war on congress....


What i am hoping, this is oda being coy and a translation error as wel, and dragons real plan is to KILL all cd. Now that is a reveal. This declare war on cd sounds just stupid...



Ok here we go. The 52 million "problem"..... not to nitpick, but someone of thay caliber shouldnt ever be called a "problem"

He slapped her and made her bleed? I apologize for everything, this dude is emperor level. To be fair, that is one hell of a feat for fodder.

Also i see you belo.... wearing a shirt like that.... you might want to be more careful who you let walk into your chest. If she tripped and grabbed that shirt you would look less bad ass and more like a scared naked girl.

So after seeing belo and morie add that to iva i am now convinced all ra are trannies.....chapter is a 0/10 see you all next week....

Is the ground moving like Clay? Or maybe this is the awakened swim fruit!!!!! I know i wont complain, alot of fruit even with unrelated powers start to look similar... doesnt help he is using a trident though....

Idk this isnt as bad as bms crew. One super serious black clad guy one goofball one trannie like guy and one smoker wannabe.... fine they are a rag tag group of people with no clear theme that i see....

Ao are thise guys having a crush on morie gross because they are guys or because they are ugly?.....i cant believe even op has a gay character now, i truely hate this world...

Looks like someone found dd coat...no its that girl from BM'S crew's coat... is it kiadou's coat? Very popular style of feather coat...

I am not saying you shouldnt always have a plan. But this guy is still worth 52m....

Also, if random fodder pirate number 6 knows who these people are? Once again. How hasnt the marines paid them a visit??

Cheer fruit? Like a cheer leader? Doesnt that conflict with her personality a little? I fell like she is more of a ralley fruit user then a cheee leader....what ever... more importantly, what about the flag? It was mentioned, does she need a flag to use her fruit? Well... worse fruit exist.


Off topic tangent- So when i was younger i made some fan fic (in my head) about a powerful group of "gods" who silently ran op from the shadows controling who could be pk, what nation could rise to be wg, and so forth, each member used a df that was extremely op. (I know that sounds like the final reveal in naruto but trust me i was way before that...well i made my story before i read the end of naruto idk if kishi planed that end 20 years ago then he would of thought of it first) (also a little bleach final arc too kinda, but again i was first) so i just think it is funny, this is the first time oda has ever came close to using one of the df i imagined that were too op for OP. To be fair my "emotion fruit" was the weakest fruit i thought up though. And it was only op because of the powers each emotion would grant the user and people effected by it. But it seems he got the rage emotion right. -tangent over



Oh great the brook "freeze guns instead of harming the enemy" apporach.....what happened to all your talk about killing them......i hate manga sometimes... just freeze their heads...

Flock of crows...just like sabo road in dr..... hey quick question.... why the hell was you north commander with you and kola and hack in DR?





Ok, i get we cant have the ra taking down bm or weevel...but there has to be something between a 50m bunty and an emperor they can take down to prove their strength right?! Honestly i am not impressed with any of their abilities. One turns the ground into clay....ok....that helps in a fight how? One can rally fodder.... sure hope there is always fodder around and someone with coc doesnt one shot them all.... one uses a freeze gun to freeze other guns...... and the last one turns into a flock of birds. That would be very scary in real life but in op a flock of birds is just a flock of birds, any strong opponent will just destroy the larger target.


I am torn on this chapter, on one hand meeting new characters is always fun, on the other hand this is the worst least impactful debut i have ever seen. Buggy leveling 5 buildings with a cannon ball was more impressive then this. And like i said their powers arent anything to write home about.
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Posted 11 May 2018 - 07:23 AM


So Sado is still alive, what a shock I thought he was dead for sure all kidding aside.

 

Well, all kidding aside, the last time we saw him he was alive and well on Baltigo: http://mangaseeonlin...803-page-7.html

There wasn't even a cliffhanger involved :P

 

 


Flock of crows...just like sabo road in dr..... hey quick question.... why the hell was you north commander with you and kola and hack in DR?

 

There was a 1- or 2-day skip in there, so there's time for him to arrive to pick up Sabo :shrug:


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Posted 11 May 2018 - 07:27 AM

Well, all kidding aside, the last time we saw him he was alive and well on Baltigo: http://mangaseeonlin...803-page-7.html
There wasn't even a cliffhanger involved :P



There was a 1- or 2-day skip in there, so there's time for him to arrive to pick up Sabo :shrug:

You are right if the sabo goes down or out of contact like he was they need to send someone after him, i just figured it would be someone stronger then sabo. I guess I owe bm's "send progressively stronger commanders" tactic an apology.

If bm is smarter then you dragon, maybe you shouldnt be leading an ra.

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 07:45 AM

You are right if the sabo goes down or out of contact like he was they need to send someone after him, i just figured it would be someone stronger then sabo. I guess I owe bm's "send progressively stronger commanders" tactic an apology.

If bm is smarter then you dragon, maybe you shouldnt be leading an ra.

 

Eh, I'd rather assume that he was sent for transportation rather than as backup. With CP0 and Admirals running around the island, it's probably the swiftest way to exit.



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Posted 11 May 2018 - 08:27 AM

You are right if the sabo goes down or out of contact like he was they need to send someone after him, i just figured it would be someone stronger then sabo. I guess I owe bm's "send progressively stronger commanders" tactic an apology.

If bm is smarter then you dragon, maybe you shouldnt be leading an ra.


We still don't know this guys strength. Given the crow dude design I would love if he was at least as strong as sabo.
I think I said i in an other post but the RA commanders will most likely be df specialists. The crow dude is mostlikly the best to get in and get out type of missions.

Also, isnt the tranny kingdom in the gl not the nw? Wow they are slow.....dudes everyone of value is in the nw now....

So he reverie is in 2 days and the RA seats in paradise waiting for their commanders that are on another island, possibly paradise or nw. How the hell isn't dragon freaking out about being late. He has to wait for the other guys and only then will he start moving towards mariejoa. It took luffy 1 day from wci to the end of BM territory. It also took luffy a week from DR to zou and many days from zou to WCI. I would be worried

To be associated with luffy is one of the worst things you can do.
Normally if you associated with a shikibucai you are free to do as you want (cesaer with DD, arlong with jimbe and a lot of pirates with buggy) Law on the other hand associated himself with luffy and was immediatelly stripped of his title even if it was to defeat an oppressive corrupt DD. This chapter we see that germa got the axe because they also associated hemselves with luffy. You can say its because judge tried to join forces with BM but in the end the newspaper only had those pieces of information. Regardless or not of he official reason we can't forget that public perspetive still means a lot.

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 09:33 AM

This chapter felt off somehow...... I agree that this chapter and the RA’s introduced were very underwhelming. They dont really seem strong or interesting. I didn’t really care for Weavels introduction either but he was still waaay better then this. Idk im at a lost for words. I love Dragon but this isnt making me excited for the Revo army. Honestly I’ve never actually liked Kuma or Iva’s design either and never was too interesed in them as part of the revolutionary army so i guess thats a common theme with all of them, except Sabo i guess

Wait will the Reverie arc be a real arc?! Their definitely setting up like it is. I thought it would be a chapter at most of jus dialogue. But now its seeming like itll be an entire full arc of fightin and everything. I would love that tbh. Like a whole arc without luffy. Dont get me wrong I love luffy but it would be nice to see an arc not focused on him but rather on dragon and sabo.
 

You are right if the sabo goes down or out of contact like he was they need to send someone after him, i just figured it would be someone stronger then sabo. I guess I owe bm's "send progressively stronger commanders" tactic an apology.

If bm is smarter then you dragon, maybe you shouldnt be leading an ra.

wait how would kurusu go to Dressrosa to help but somehow end up with the the other commanders in his way back to meet up with sabo. Wouldn’t he have had to be with sabo the whole time since then?
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Posted 11 May 2018 - 10:17 AM

Eh, I'd rather assume that he was sent for transportation rather than as backup. With CP0 and Admirals running around the island, it's probably the swiftest way to exit.


Well he seems like a horrible match up against fuji. A flock of small birds vs a man who controls gravity.
But to be fair no one else would realy help sabo escape, maybe the gay giant but i feel his powers wouldnt so much counter fuji's as much as they would just drownd him and sabo.
 

This chapter felt off somehow...... I agree that this chapter and the RA’s introduced were very underwhelming. They dont really seem strong or interesting. I didn’t really care for Weavels introduction either but he was still waaay better then this. Idk im at a lost for words. I love Dragon but this isnt making me excited for the Revo army. Honestly I’ve never actually liked Kuma or Iva’s design either and never was too interesed in them as part of the revolutionary army so i guess thats a common theme with all of them, except Sabo i guess

Wait will the Reverie arc be a real arc?! Their definitely setting up like it is. I thought it would be a chapter at most of jus dialogue. But now its seeming like itll be an entire full arc of fightin and everything. I would love that tbh. Like a whole arc without luffy. Dont get me wrong I love luffy but it would be nice to see an arc not focused on him but rather on dragon and sabo.
 
wait how would kurusu go to Dressrosa to help but somehow end up with the the other commanders in his way back to meet up with sabo. Wouldn’t he have had to be with sabo the whole time since then?



100% with you on that first sentence, these guys have very dull powers and they didnt do much this chapter.
I admit i like belo's powers a little, at least my version of them, but they arent really the powers of a hero are they? They are the powers of a villain, imagine a bad guy "encouraging" fodder to jump in his way to protect him from attacks. Like what judge did.... Could you imagine a villain going from town to town "encouraging" the towns people to split into two armies and fight to the death? Like what dd did to dr only actually follow through.
Now THAT is a villain, maybe not a main villain, maybe the attractive right hand woman of a main villain....but still better then this. I mean..... even the g66 saved a kingdom without making fodder fight for them. A cowardly villain makes fodder fight for him, a hero typically protects fodder.... and see you can argue it is the right thing to do somwtimes, but as a good guy this instantly puts a limit on her power. She obviously will never be justified in encouraging fodder to help her fight weevel or dogtooth. However, a villain, we would all expect a villain to make fodder block weevel or dogtooth's attacks for him.

Honestly the reason for the underwhelming 52m bounty may be solely because of belo betty.
900m bounty shiellew "i am so angry i will kill all you ra commanders for what sabo did to burgess"
Belo "go fodder, get him!!!"


Now one final thought on belos powers. I think exactly what i said may be why oda gave this fruit to a good guy. I am pretty sure oda doesnt want to draw countless innocent fodder civilians getting punched in the face by luffy who is despertely trying to hit the villain using the fruit.
 
Oh also to answer your question, i agree it is stupid, but to be fair since the north blue is next to the NW, plus crow's ability to fly, it is possible, if the commander of the nirth was actually in the north blue, that he was the closest commander to sabo
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Posted 11 May 2018 - 10:19 AM

@captain kidd Belo's fruit is to power-up Dragon so he has a chance vs Admiral.


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